Dewayne Haskins' death

[trents]

What a bizarre tragedy! I don't think he had any children yet but he did leave behind a young wife. And this is going to be hard on his teammates.

[RiverDog]

What a bizarre tragedy! I don't think he had any children yet but he did leave behind a young wife. And this is going to be hard on his teammates.

Yeah, a couple of us discussed it over on the Off Topic side in the RIP thread. Awful tragedy. My condolences to his friends and relatives.

It's a rather unusual accident. Haskins was struck by a dump truck while crossing multiple lanes of traffic on an interstate freeway at 6:30am on a Saturday morning while walking on the highway "for unknown reasons". The driver of the dump truck is said to have been fully cooperative. He had been working out with several other of his Steeler teammates.

[RiverDog]

A few more details have emerged regarding what Haskins was doing on a busy freeway when he was struck and killed by a dump truck:

Dwayne Haskins’ wife, Kalabrya Haskins, made a concerned 911 call on the morning of his death and said the Steelers quarterback was “stuck” on the side of a Florida highway and “had to go walk and get gas."

On the April 9 call, which was obtained by South Florida Fox Sports host Andy Slater, Haskins’ wife can be heard telling a 911 dispatcher that her husband had called her from the side of the road near I-95 in Broward County, Fla., and that he would call her back after he had finished putting gas in his vehicle.

A separate 911 call, also obtained by Slater, came from a panicked person who said they had witnessed the incident.

“There was a man hit in front of me. I was traveling on the road and I saw a dump truck hit a man,” the caller can be heard saying through deep breaths.

https://nypost.com/2022/04/20/dwayne-ha ... cks-death/

Also, I can't find a quote, but I'm hearing that Haskins was struck by two vehicles.

[Hawktawk]

Utterly bizarre but it can happen . I know of a man who was jogging along 28 and his wife pulled over on the opposite shoulder . He turned to walk towards her without looking and got clipped by a motorhome doing 60. Awful . Senseless

[RiverDog]

Utterly bizarre but it can happen . I know of a man who was jogging along 28 and his wife pulled over on the opposite shoulder . He turned to walk towards her without looking and got clipped by a motorhome doing 60. Awful . Senseless

At this point, there's just too many things that we don't know to even begin to speculate. What lane of the freeway was he struck in, the far right lane closest to the shoulder or was it a middle or far left lane? Was he trying to cross the highway or was he walking parallel to it? Was he talking on his phone when he was struck? Was the driver of the dump truck distracted? What were the results of the toxicology report of both Haskins and the dump truck driver. And now this latest element of a 2nd vehicle striking him.

I still find it very odd that Haskins could have run out of gas. Who doesn't know when they're low on fuel? Any car made in the last 20 years starts giving you multiple warnings when you get below 1/4 of a tank, and the more modern cars have the estimated range in miles, which I've personally found to be very accurate. Was he in a hurry and didn't have time to pull off the freeway and re-fuel?

Awful, senseless, and bizarre are all accurate characterizations of this accident.

[Hawktawk]

I’ve run out of gas before like most everyone has . That’s where it gets wierd . Prior to hearing about the call I suspected suicide by dump truck . Just spaced out and cost him his life . I feel for the truck driver . Toxicology results aside having had a CDL and driven 18 wheelers if someone steps right in front of you there’s nothing you can do . I only drove truck for 3 years, hated it because cars didn’t understand they couldn’t pull out in front of you , cut your off etc. hated the job . I assume the second car was right behind the truck and hit him after he was surely already dead in midair after the truck hit him. Sad

[TriCitySam]

Also, I can't find a quote, but I'm hearing that Haskins was struck by two vehicles.

An ABC News report: "A second driver tried to avoid him, but the second car also came in contact with Haskins, according to the report, which was released Wednesday."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dwayne-haskin ... d=84196034

[RiverDog]

I’ve run out of gas before like most everyone has . That’s where it gets wierd . Prior to hearing about the call I suspected suicide by dump truck . Just spaced out and cost him his life . I feel for the truck driver . Toxicology results aside having had a CDL and driven 18 wheelers if someone steps right in front of you there’s nothing you can do . I only drove truck for 3 years, hated it because cars didn’t understand they couldn’t pull out in front of you , cut your off etc. hated the job . I assume the second car was right behind the truck and hit him after he was surely already dead in midair after the truck hit him. Sad

I was a fleet supervisor for 9 years, so although my driving experience with 18 wheelers is nearly non existent, I'm quite familiar with the problems our truck drivers had to contend with. 80% of all car/truck accidents are the fault of the car. CDL truck drivers are held to a much higher standard than the general public, being subject to random drug and alcohol testing. They lose their CDL, they lose their job. I could go on and on. I have a great deal of sympathy for truck drivers and will do whatever I can to accommodate them when I'm on the highway.

If a dump truck hit Haskins, it's unlikely that he would have gone into mid air. A truck is going to strike a human being much higher than a standard size automobile. He likely would have gotten run over rather than tossed over the truck. Not that it makes a great deal of difference, going that speed, he would have been killed almost instantly no matter what kind of vehicle he got struck by.

[RiverDog]

Also, I can't find a quote, but I'm hearing that Haskins was struck by two vehicles.

An ABC News report: "A second driver tried to avoid him, but the second car also came in contact with Haskins, according to the report, which was released Wednesday."

https://abcnews.go.com/US/dwayne-haskin ... d=84196034

Thanks, Sam! I heard it watching the news last night, but didn't see a link. However, I didn't hear the line about the 2nd driver trying to avoid him.

Your link also indicates that Haskins was in the center lane, which probably rules out unintentionally walking into traffic if he were walking parallel to the highway while talking on his phone or something. It also said that there were no vision or distraction issues by either driver, which we can interpret as their likely not being at fault.

[RiverDog]

I hadn't heard about this as I just saw this article posted on another message board. It answers some questions we had about what appeared to be a rather bizarre accident, so I thought I'd pass it along. From an article dated May 24th:

Steelers quarterback Dwayne Haskins was legally drunk when he was fatally struck

The Broward County Medical Examiner's Office said Haskins' blood alcohol content was 0.20 when he was fatally struck on Interstate 595 near Fort Lauderdale-Hollywood International Airport just before dawn on April 9. That's 2.5 times the 0.08 legal limit for driving in the state.

According to the University of California, Davis, and other universities, someone of Haskins' weight, 230 pounds (104 kilograms), would have needed at least 10 drinks in the hours before his death to reach that level. He also had the strong painkiller ketamine and its metabolite norketamine in his system. The drug can be prescribed by a doctor, but can also be abused recreationally. The report does not say why the former Ohio State University star had it in his system.

The report said investigators found Haskins' car out of gas near where he was hit. A woman he was with told investigators Haskins, 24, had gone to get fuel. Witnesses said he was trying to wave down cars and standing in the center lane when he was hit by the truck and then an SUV. The report said he died of blunt force trauma. No charges have been filed.

https://www.wfdd.org/story/steelers-qua ... lly-struck

[Hawktawk]

As much as I love this game there’s a concern about all the blows to the head .for whatever reason if you have a guy that big headed for practice at .20 he’s been drinking all night . The body sheds .02 per hour so unless he drank them all at once it’s a lot more than 10. Then the drugs . Just sad . Scary . Feel for his family and friends .

[RiverDog]

As much as I love this game there’s a concern about all the blows to the head .for whatever reason if you have a guy that big headed for practice at .20 he’s been drinking all night . The body sheds .02 per hour so unless he drank them all at once it’s a lot more than 10. Then the drugs . Just sad . Scary . Feel for his family and friends .

Not sure if the blows to the head had anything to do with it. He was a QB, and they aren't nearly as subject to those types of injuries as are a RB, LB, WR, etc. But you're right, he was likely up all night drinking, 8-10 hours, so in addition to the alcohol and drugs, you can throw in fatigue, too.

I'm just glad that no one else got hurt. In addition to his family and friends, I feel sorry for the drivers that hit him. Even though it wasn't their fault, it has to be an awful feeling knowing that you were operating a vehicle that killed another human being.

I wish the press would have publicized these results a little better. I don't want to see his name drug through the mud, but it would serve as a message to players and fans alike about the dangers of substance abuse, especially these younger kids that haven't had the types of experiences that we've had.

[Hawktawk]

Who was the Wazzu qb that killed himself in Pullman . I had heard he had a severe case of CTE as a college qb with one start .
As for feeling bad for the drivers I understand it completely . I was on hwy 14 outside Stevenson 1 mile west and an oncoming car crossed the centerline on snow and ice and hit me head on . They were doing 65 on snow and ice on a curve . I was doing 45 . I woke up with a dead man on my dash what was left of it . It was a young couple with 2 kids who were thankfully not with them . One of the mothers called me at st Joe’s hospital in Vancouver and said they were praying for my recovery , thankful I survived and asked me not to carry guilt or pain through my life for something that wasn’t my fault . I gotta be honest Riv 42 years later it’s like yesterday . A couple left kids orphaned and I survived .

[RiverDog]

Who was the Wazzu qb that killed himself in Pullman . I had heard he had a severe case of CTE as a college qb with one start .
As for feeling bad for the drivers I understand it completely . I was on hwy 14 outside Stevenson 1 mile west and an oncoming car crossed the centerline on snow and ice and hit me head on . They were doing 65 on snow and ice on a curve . I was doing 45 . I woke up with a dead man on my dash what was left of it . It was a young couple with 2 kids who were thankfully not with them . One of the mothers called me at st Joe’s hospital in Vancouver and said they were praying for my recovery , thankful I survived and asked me not to carry guilt or pain through my life for something that wasn’t my fault . I gotta be honest Riv 42 years later it’s like yesterday . A couple left kids orphaned and I survived .

Tyler Hilinski was the WSU QB that committed suicide, and yes, the autopsy revealed that he had Stage I CTE, the lowest level, and that it likely resulted from his playing football. However, his mother doesn't think that's what led to his death.

But that's neither here nor there. Even though autopsy disclosed Haskins' the toxicology results, it didn't say anything about CTE, so if he had it, I would think that it would have been released as well.

Tough story about your experience in an automobile accident. My wife's ex got killed when he was drunk, driving on a suspended license, and ran a stop sign and got T-boned by a SUV. Despite the fact that it was clearly the fault of the ex, the drivers of the SUV were devastated. My wife cursed her dead ex for putting those people through that kind of trauma.

[Hawktawk]

Yeah I hear you . I don’t think the driver in my accident was impaired but it’s a burden knowing your car killed somebody . If you drink and drive and get arrested it’s not the worst thing that can happen . I’ve buried friends that didn’t get it.