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Trumpworld is finally losing in Putinworld

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:48 pm
by c_hawkbob
In the most recent broadcast of the state TV show Sunday Evening With Vladimir Solovyov, host Vladimir Solovyov remarked, “I’m very worried for our agent Trump. They found everything at Mar-a-Lago, they got packages of documents. In all seriousness, they say he should be executed as a person that was ready to hand off nuclear secrets to Russia.”


https://www.yahoo.com/news/putin-world- ... 15321.html

Re: Trumpworld is finally losing in Putinworld

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 4:56 pm
by Aseahawkfan
Wow. Russian media sounds like it makes the American media look sane. That entire article is so insane that I can't even imagine how the Russian people would believe it. I wonder what percentage of the Russian population believes their media? My goodness. That is so insane.

Re: Trumpworld is finally losing in Putinworld

PostPosted: Tue Aug 16, 2022 5:01 pm
by c_hawkbob
Judging from the level of support for the invasion of the "fascist" Ukraine I'd say at least as many buy into what they are selling as Americans that buy into what Trump has been selling.

Re: Trumpworld is finally losing in Putinworld

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:34 am
by Hawktawk
c_hawkbob wrote:Judging from the level of support for the invasion of the "fascist" Ukraine I'd say at least as many buy into what they are selling as Americans that buy into what Trump has been selling.

There were documents regarding nuclear weapons recovered at Mara Lago . If someone can explain why a former president would have such materials in his private residence I’m all ears . If one were to speculate which foreign power might he able to put enough blackmail pressure on said president to cause him to try to share them????. Honestly Putin may as well share the water sports video from the Moscow Ritz Carlton . Trumps supporters would just love him more .

Seriously though it’s a treasonous act but MAGA right “ agent trump “ only been saying it 5 years myself .

Re: Trumpworld is finally losing in Putinworld

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 8:48 am
by NorthHawk
Michael Cohen said in a recent interview that he thought Trump would have these documents as a lever against prosecution or sentencing.
Basically holding them hostage to get a deal so as to not go to prison.
He worked for him long enough to know what type of person Trump is and what he might be inclined to do so it might be on track to being somewhat accurate.

My guess is it's about money and that he would sell the info to the Russians so he could get favorable loans or loan reductions for those already in place.

Re: Trumpworld is finally losing in Putinworld

PostPosted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 1:09 pm
by Aseahawkfan
NorthHawk wrote:Michael Cohen said in a recent interview that he thought Trump would have these documents as a lever against prosecution or sentencing.
Basically holding them hostage to get a deal so as to not go to prison.
He worked for him long enough to know what type of person Trump is and what he might be inclined to do so it might be on track to being somewhat accurate.

My guess is it's about money and that he would sell the info to the Russians so he could get favorable loans or loan reductions for those already in place.


I don't believe anything out of Michael Cohen's mouth. He's the definition of a weasel you can never trust with anything. He does whatever makes him money or keeps him relevant.

Hopefully we find out what was in the documents Trump took soon.

I find it strange that his is apparently a common political practice. It seems nearly ever politician is allowed to take a ton of documents with them when they leave office. Probably been happening for years, but the entire political system we're seeing as in-depth as we've ever seen it with all this legislation is an indication to me we have literally let these guys get away with too much for too long.

Re: Trumpworld is finally losing in Putinworld

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:19 am
by I-5
Aseahawkfan wrote:I don't believe anything out of Michael Cohen's mouth. He's the definition of a weasel you can never trust with anything. He does whatever makes him money or keeps him relevant.

Hopefully we find out what was in the documents Trump took soon.

I find it strange that his is apparently a common political practice. It seems nearly ever politician is allowed to take a ton of documents with them when they leave office. Probably been happening for years, but the entire political system we're seeing as in-depth as we've ever seen it with all this legislation is an indication to me we have literally let these guys get away with too for too long.


This weasel also covered for Trump and handled all the hush money payments for decades....until he didn't. So if it's Trump's word vs Cohen's, what does that leave you with? He has a book to sell, but why would he bother making stuff up when the reality with Trump is far crazier?

Re: Trumpworld is finally losing in Putinworld

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 3:15 pm
by Aseahawkfan
I-5 wrote:This weasel also covered for Trump and handled all the hush money payments for decades....until he didn't. So if it's Trump's word vs Cohen's, what does that leave you with? He has a book to sell, but why would he bother making stuff up when the reality with Trump is far crazier?


And yet couldn't provide any actionable laws broken for having done so. He was busted on something he did for another client. So he was doing illegal actions with other clients than Trump and couldn't even provide a good case against Trump other than paying off a pornstar and a nude model.

If Cohen had actionable intel on Trump, Trump would already be in jail or indicted and he would have leveraged it to get out.

Cohen gets dragged out every time someone wants a talking point on Trump and he's made so many failed predictions on Trump's downfall, not even sure why they keep dragging him out. Just like when Mary Trump gets dragged on another T.V. show to offer an opinion that leads to nothing.

I can't believe you haven't noticed the people that have predicted Trump's downfall or indictment that were wrong again and again and again and again, but have ended up indicated or in jail themselves for something completely unrelated to Trump. Where are we at right now? With Trump still possibly running in 2024 and still whining on his newly created Truth Social which is probably going to ramp up even bigger if the DoJ can't stick something on Trump for these documents.

Why don't you explain to me after catching his former lawyer Michael Cohen, Paul Manafort, his ex-secretary of defense, his former business partner, and having multiple investigations on him over the course of years, two impeachment hearings that this guy is still golfing in Florida and talking about running in 2024? Why the hell can't the Democrats stick anything on him? Why?

Re: Trumpworld is finally losing in Putinworld

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:06 pm
by NorthHawk
Cohen knows how Trump thinks and operates.
I think his viewpoint should be considered and he described him as acting like a mob boss.
His Presidency seemed to suggest that description might have some degree of merit.

Re: Trumpworld is finally losing in Putinworld

PostPosted: Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:06 pm
by c_hawkbob
These are the people he surrounds himself with. If you're waiting for an unimpeachable source you're probably out of luck.

Re: Trumpworld is finally losing in Putinworld

PostPosted: Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:11 am
by Aseahawkfan
Most of us on here don't like this guy. But I'm tired of it all being talk, talk, talk. Stick it to this guy.

This is why I still believe Trump is being protected by some seriously powerful unseen people or the Dems would have already stuck it to him. How can you spend this many years investigating this dude and not stick something on him? Really. It's ridiculous. Even you Democrat guys gotta see this is getting stupid.

I've seen Michael Cohen trotted out for what? For four or five years now? He keeps saying the same crap. When's it gonna stick and this be done?

This has reached boy cried wolf level for me at this point. It's hard for me to pay attention when damn never every Democrat and some Republicans on the planet have called the end of Trump and he's still in the news...6 plus years later if you include all his campaigning. He's been accused of everything from rape to being a traitor to a racist to tax evasion to bullying election officials and bribery and misappropriation of funds and inciting insurrection and more. About the only thing I don't think he hasn't been accused of yet is directly murdering someone.

How can you investigate a guy this long and not stick something on him? Really, it's getting ridiculous. No wonder his supporters don't care. They guy keeps on evading any punishment for anything he does.

I really, really, really hope they stick something on him soon. I don't care what Michael Cohen or Mary Trump or Job, Bob, and Larry have to say about him. We all know he is a scumbag at this point. The only people not admitting he is a scumbag are his followers. Even guys like Mitch McConnel and Barr know he's a scumbag. I'm reading some of this material from Barr and Trump sounds like a total lunatic. I tend to trust more of what Barr has to say because it is direct accounts of what was going on why looney narcissist was yelling at the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs calling him a loser. And calling Mike Pence a coward.

Trump is a ridiculous scumbag. Michael Cohen is the least of the people you need to listen to to know this. Barr's book alone should be torpedoing Trump, but it's all just being glossed over because Trump is protected from some powerful people who want to take back the White House.

I don't think he'll be forgotten until it is very clear he can't retake the White House to fulfill whatever agenda is being served by whatever powerful dudes with money that are protecting Trump from up on high. He sure isn't being protected by McConnel any longer or Joe Average Trump supporter sitting in his living room watching Fox News. Somebody with a lot of juice is maneuvering behind the scenes to protect that piece of dung or the Democrats would have already sunk this piece of trash.

I'm waiting for the midterms to be over. If the Democrats take the Congress, I think Trump will finally lose his protection. His protection might wait for the next election cycle in 2024, but if the Democrats get enough of an advantage they can end Trump I hope. I can live with a Democratic Congress for a few years to finally torpedo this piece of narcissistic garbage who for some reason is keeping this country in thrall to his every doing. Writing books about him and doing news about Trump is a business in and of itself at this point which a ton of people are making money writing books and doing interviews like jackass Michael Cohen.