HawkShack.com

I haven't posted for quite a few months, but feels good to be back. Keep killing it yoder.

Anyone check this out? Given that they do it for all 32 teams, I'm not too pissed by it. I even found it funny (and pretty accurate). Love to hear everyone else's thoughts.

http://deadspin.com/why-your-team-sucks ... 1625471757

The 49ers' Deadspin was much funnier than ours. The fan comments their are golden.

These comments are pretty good:

"Our fans are all idiots who troll Seahawks message boards and claim football superiority because we won a bunch of Super Bowls in the 80s and 90s."

"Michael Crabtree is only 26, which is amazing because it feels like he's been terrible for forever.

Colin Kaepernick looks exactly like a middle school kid who spilled milk all over his sweatpants at recess.

During the end of Candlestick Park (which was a god awful shithole of concrete and frozen human sadness) the Niners kept trotting out Eddie DeBartolo to thunderous applause. It's like everyone forgot he was caught in a felony investigation involving paying bribes to open a god damn riverboat casino. If you add a ghost costume in the mix, he was basically brought down by a Scooby-doo plot.

We should still manage to make the playoffs, if half our defense isn't in jail for stabbing the other half."

Hooooly shyt lol. The author had some lame ass soft balls that actually built the Seahawks up more than it roasted them. Those were things fans actually don't say.

Now the postings by the actual Hawk fans in response were candid and hillarious.

they do have some classy fans on that site!

Chase:

We endlessly talk about how the SeAdderall Seahawks are cheating and need to be suspended but will come up with a million excuses defending Aldon Smith's dumb ass.

We endlessly talk about how the SeAdderall Seahawks are cheating and need to be suspended but will come up with a million excuses defending Aldon Smith's dumb ass.

That might as well have come from Futureite.

RiverDog wrote:We endlessly talk about how the SeAdderall Seahawks are cheating and need to be suspended but will come up with a million excuses defending Aldon Smith's dumb ass.

That might as well have come from Futureite.

Lol! I'd love to see a copy and paste of the post I made suggesting Aldon does not deserve a suspension. When have I ever said that . . . . Ever.

Futureite wrote:

RiverDog wrote:We endlessly talk about how the SeAdderall Seahawks are cheating and need to be suspended but will come up with a million excuses defending Aldon Smith's dumb ass.

That might as well have come from Futureite.

Lol! I'd love to see a copy and paste of the post I made suggesting Aldon does not deserve a suspension. When have I ever said that . . . . Ever.

Relax future, RD's post says nothing about him 'not deserving a suspension' it just says they will come up with a million excuses for Smith. You never said he didn't deserve to be suspended you just continually attempt to tell us what a good guy he is and that his moronic actions didn't have malicious intent and that we should allow him to babysit our kids because he is just misunderstood.

That wasn't bad.

mykc14 wrote:

Futureite wrote:

RiverDog wrote:We endlessly talk about how the SeAdderall Seahawks are cheating and need to be suspended but will come up with a million excuses defending Aldon Smith's dumb ass.

That might as well have come from Futureite.

Lol! I'd love to see a copy and paste of the post I made suggesting Aldon does not deserve a suspension. When have I ever said that . . . . Ever.

Relax future, RD's post says nothing about him 'not deserving a suspension' it just says they will come up with a million excuses for Smith. You never said he didn't deserve to be suspended you just continually attempt to tell us what a good guy he is and that his moronic actions didn't have malicious intent and that we should allow him to babysit our kids because he is just misunderstood.

I couldn't have said it better myself. That's exactly my point. All along, Future has been spinning the Smith debacles into something equivalent to a high school prank and completely ignores, or at the very least trivializes, the crimes Smith admitted to committing, arguing that Smith should receive nothing more than a slap on the wrists.

burrrton wrote:That wasn't bad.

For some reason 12ves are less likely to bash their own team and ownership, stadium, coaches, players etc..... probably why we are considered the "worst" LOL, check out other articles, and the vehement emails step up a notch....

I couldn't have said it better myself. That's exactly my point. All along, Future has been spinning the Smith debacles into something equivalent to a high school prank and completely ignores, or at the very least trivializes, the crimes Smith admitted to committing, arguing that Smith should receive nothing more than a slap on the wrists.[/quote]

That's not accurate. I said many times in terms of legal action that he deserves what the "average person" would get for doing the same things. The disconnect was that many of you believed a plumber would be sitting in prison for 5 yrs for the same crime, and thus somehow I was minimizing the severity of the crimes to suggest Aldon should receive far less than that. In reality, the man that stabbed Aldon was convicted of the exact same possession violation and he received probation. He was an average Joe or possibly worse criminally speaking, and he received nothing close to what some of you proposed for Aldon. What I stated was right in line with what was fair and just. Your statements were not.

And, the criteria that I posted should be considered in the sentencing; from Aldon's criminal history to his intent, was carefully considered and ennunciated by the judge in his decision. And yet most of you scoffed (snd apparently still are) at the idea that one's intent matters in a criminal case. Basically what both of you are telling me is that an experienced judge who listened to all of the facts of this case in not fit to determine Aldon's intent, but a fan that's read media reports is equipped to determine "malicious intent"? None of this made any sense to me at the time and it makes even less now that you are still debating it. No, he had no malicious intent. Yes, it matters.

Morally I disagree with some of what Aldon has done, so I understand your point. But I wasn't at his party. I don't know who invited the gang members, if they threatened him, or where he fired the shots. Do you know for certain how you'd react in the same situation? I do know at 25 I drove countless times drunk from college parties and could have easily been Aldon in San Jose. Yes it was dumb, but it doesn't make me a thug. Like most things in life it is all far, far from the black and white picture a lot of you have painted.

Futureite wrote:I couldn't have said it better myself. That's exactly my point. All along, Future has been spinning the Smith debacles into something equivalent to a high school prank and completely ignores, or at the very least trivializes, the crimes Smith admitted to committing, arguing that Smith should receive nothing more than a slap on the wrists.

That's not accurate. I said many times in terms of legal action that he deserves what the "average person" would get for doing the same things. The disconnect was that many of you believed a plumber would be sitting in prison for 5 yrs for the same crime, and thus somehow I was minimizing the severity of the crimes to suggest Aldon should receive far less than that. In reality, the man that stabbed Aldon was convicted of the exact same possession violation and he received probation. He was an average Joe or possibly worse criminally speaking, and he received nothing close to what some of you proposed for Aldon. What I stated was right in line with what was fair and just. Your statements were not.

And, the criteria that I posted should be considered in the sentencing; from Aldon's criminal history to his intent, was carefully considered and ennunciated by the judge in his decision. And yet most of you scoffed (snd apparently still are) at the idea that one's intent matters in a criminal case. Basically what both of you are telling me is that an experienced judge who listened to all of the facts of this case in not fit to determine Aldon's intent, but a fan that's read media reports is equipped to determine "malicious intent"? None of this made any sense to me at the time and it makes even less now that you are still debating it. No, he had no malicious intent. Yes, it matters.

Morally I disagree with some of what Aldon has done, so I understand your point. But I wasn't at his party. I don't know who invited the gang members, if they threatened him, or where he fired the shots. Do you know for certain how you'd react in the same situation? I do know at 25 I drove countless times drunk from college parties and could have easily been Aldon in San Jose. Yes it was dumb, but it doesn't make me a thug. Like most things in life it is all far, far from the black and white picture a lot of you have painted.[/quote]

Again, this is what I am talking about. Who invited the gang members doesn't matter, where he fired the shots doesn't matter. You don't know what you would do in that situation, really? If somebody were at my house that I didn't want there I would CALL THE COPS, pretty easy. Of course I wouldn't have illegal drugs or guns at my house so I wouldn't have to worry about the cops finding crap that would put me in jail. I think many people, looking back have driven while they have had too many, but if I were to get a DUI I can assure you it would only take ONE. His actions are not youthly mistakes of a teenager, he is a 25 year old man. He could have gone off to war and fought 7 years ago. I am not saying he is a thug, but he absolutely has put his community at large in harm, intent or not. How would you feel about your neighbor, who has multiple DUI's driving down your road while your kids are playing outside. At the same time that neighbor has fired his guns, up in the air, at a party. In neither instance did he receiver jail time. I would be worried he didn't learn his lesson and that my family may be in harms way due to his actions.

Futureite wrote:That's not accurate. I said many times in terms of legal action that he deserves what the "average person" would get for doing the same things. The disconnect was that many of you believed a plumber would be sitting in prison for 5 yrs for the same crime, and thus somehow I was minimizing the severity of the crimes to suggest Aldon should receive far less than that. In reality, the man that stabbed Aldon was convicted of the exact same possession violation and he received probation. He was an average Joe or possibly worse criminally speaking, and he received nothing close to what some of you proposed for Aldon. What I stated was right in line with what was fair and just. Your statements were not.

And, the criteria that I posted should be considered in the sentencing; from Aldon's criminal history to his intent, was carefully considered and ennunciated by the judge in his decision. And yet most of you scoffed (snd apparently still are) at the idea that one's intent matters in a criminal case. Basically what both of you are telling me is that an experienced judge who listened to all of the facts of this case in not fit to determine Aldon's intent, but a fan that's read media reports is equipped to determine "malicious intent"? None of this made any sense to me at the time and it makes even less now that you are still debating it. No, he had no malicious intent. Yes, it matters.

Morally I disagree with some of what Aldon has done, so I understand your point. But I wasn't at his party. I don't know who invited the gang members, if they threatened him, or where he fired the shots. Do you know for certain how you'd react in the same situation? I do know at 25 I drove countless times drunk from college parties and could have easily been Aldon in San Jose. Yes it was dumb, but it doesn't make me a thug. Like most things in life it is all far, far from the black and white picture a lot of you have painted.

We're not talking about what the law does about Smith's transgressions. You keep insisting on comparing him to a plumber or average Joe, why I don't know, considering that several of us have stated on a number of occasions that we agree with you about Smith's punishment by our justice system. It should be no more or no less than what you or me would receive under similar circumstances. No debate there.

But that's not the point. What we are talking about is how the league will discipline Smith, how Smith's violations of the Substance Abuse and Personal Conduct policies compares to others that have been disciplined for similar policy violations in the past, such as Worthlessburger, PacMan, Tank Johnson, Plaxico, Irsay, and most recently, Ray Rice. Enough of your plumber comparisons. They're completely irrelevant.

And, the criteria that I posted should be considered in the sentencing; from Aldon's criminal history to his intent, was carefully considered and ennunciated by the judge in his decision.

The only issues I have with that statement, is professing that all those without intent, or first time offenders get the same leniency, which IMHO is INCREDIBLY naive, and insanely inaccurate. Plenty of judges willing to hand out maximum sentences to "teach them a lesson" and it simply isn't accurate to claim otherwise. Also, obviously Smith's infractions are growing by leaps and bounds yearly ( is that five separate instances in less than three years, seems like a pattern to me) you can claim he didn't intend to drive high and drunk, TWICE, and claim he didn't intend to create the situation that lead to the felony charges ( which would again be COMPLETELY inaccurate, as he KNEW he was circumventing the law by having them without a license) and no matter what you say, KNEW again that shooting them off, or even SHOWING them was AGAIN against the law. The attempt to switch license plates after his second DUI, AGAIN clearly shows intent to "hide" what he had done, the tantrum in the airport AGAIN shows "intent" on his part.

NOTHING I've seen shows ANY regards for others, and a FULL intent to circumvent the law, you can CLAIM otherwise, but that stuff is ALL public knowledge, or COMMON SENSE. You continue to argue it was just a "dumb kid" mistake, and yet have zero qualms about bashing on someone who is a MODEL citizen has NEVER had any issue with the law, or endangered the lives ( with or without intent)of innocent people. SMH.

HumanCockroach wrote:And, the criteria that I posted should be considered in the sentencing; from Aldon's criminal history to his intent, was carefully considered and ennunciated by the judge in his decision.

The only issues I have with that statement, is professing that all those without intent, or first time offenders get the same leniency, which IMHO is INCREDIBLY naive, and insanely inaccurate. Plenty of judges willing to hand out maximum sentences to "teach them a lesson" and it simply isn't accurate to claim otherwise. Also, obviously Smith's infractions are growing by leaps and bounds yearly ( is that five separate instances in less than three years, seems like a pattern to me) you can claim he didn't intend to drive high and drunk, TWICE, and claim he didn't intend to create the situation that lead to the felony charges ( which would again be COMPLETELY inaccurate, as he KNEW he was circumventing the law by having them without a license) and no matter what you say, KNEW again that shooting them off, or even SHOWING them was AGAIN against the law. The attempt to switch license plates after his second DUI, AGAIN clearly shows intent to "hide" what he had done, the tantrum in the airport AGAIN shows "intent" on his part.

NOTHING I've seen shows ANY regards for others, and a FULL intent to circumvent the law, you can CLAIM otherwise, but that stuff is ALL public knowledge, or COMMON SENSE. You continue to argue it was just a "dumb kid" mistake, and yet have zero qualms about bashing on someone who is a MODEL citizen has NEVER had any issue with the law, or endangered the lives ( with or without intent)of innocent people. SMH.

All good points.

There's not a drunk in the country that intended to wrap his car around a tree, so to say that Smith did not have criminal intent in mind when he got behind the wheel of a 4,000 lb rig when he was seriously impaired does not separate his case from from anyone in the country that was charged with a similar offense.