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If this is true Marshawn is becoming more and more of a distraction and more important trouble. It's to early to draw any conclusions but I don't like it. I still don't know what ever happened to his DUI but this looks more serious, hopefully it's nothing

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Poli ... 82241.html

If this is true, it means that Lynch at some point will be facing suspension time. I guess he expects everyone to kiss his fanny.

I am hoping this is a case of the woman wanting more than a one night stand and Marshawn saying no, and then going ballistic when she threatens him with the cops. because, if this is Lynch beating on a woman he might have played his last down for the Seahawks...

That report didn't say much. Lynch may not have even been in that room.

Yeah, way too early to be making assumptions. I'll wait till more facts come out to comment further.

What kind of assault are we talking about here? Seems to me if there is no violence against another person, then it would hard to assault them:.. Maybe it has to do with only property damage or intimidation or something? Regardless, if Lynch indeed broke the law, he deserves the punishment. Period.Not sure based on that report, he did so though. Seems pretty up in the air, and kind of vague.

Actually just intimidating someone can be assault. People get assault and battery mixed up ... battery (from battering) is the physical harm part.

Lynch is an awesome player but there is always this shadowy side of his personality. This may or may not be another manifestation of that. Its a distraction nonetheless. Better keep getting plan B ready if your Pete Carroll.

c_hawkbob wrote:Actually just intimidating someone can be assault. People get assault and battery mixed up ... battery (from battering) is the physical harm part.

I certainly do. I've heard first degree assault, and assault with a deadly weapon and all sorts of "assault" charges discussed, but to be honest, I've seldom heard the term "battery" though I don't doubt you're correct, just seems like whenever I hear assault, I'm thinking of some form of violence, not verbal intimidation.

Assault and Battery; First you threaten to beat someone up then you beat them up.

Sounds like and argument and some sort of property damage. We used to have a neighbor who would start yelling at the top of her lungs "stop hitting me" and all sorts of stuff. We would hear stuff being thrown around and glass breaking, but we had seen her boyfriend run down the street with his shoes in his hands. I peaked in the window and it was her doing all of the damage and even smacking herself with the leg of the broken coffee table. There are some crazy people out there.

But, Lynch shouldn't have been "catting" around early Sunday morning he should have been in bed resting his body after a hard week of T.C. Some people just don't get what making a commitment means.

Please let's hold off on any judgement until the facts are in.

Marshawn has earned the support from Seahawk fans over the past 4 years as the Seahawk's most courageous on field player.

Even at its worse this charge is nothing that serious - I don't see any urgency shown by the police to go out and arrest him..

Until the facts are in I will give Marshawn the benefit of doubt and continue to support him.

Theres a dark side with Beast. It helps make him who he is but out of control it can be his undoing. He isn't going to be a choirboy but come on Lynch at least focus on the season.

Never get in the way of a Beast and his Skittles.

He'll be fine.

No he will charged and he will be gone for the year. We just have to move on.

Fire! Fire! Smdh. Don't even know if he was involved right now.

Not a lot in that story and I agree with the consensus that we shouldn't jump to conclusions, but just the fact that he's in the news makes it a problem.

Official statement from the Seahawls:

While we maintain the utmost respect for the investigative process, after speaking with Marshawn, we are comfortable these accusations are bogus

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11343 ... ynch-bogus

Pretty strong statement considering the team generally always waits till all the facts are in before issuing a statement.

If he is innocent, then good on the Hawks for getting behind Lynch and ahead of this story.

c_hawkbob wrote:Official statement from the Seahawls:

While we maintain the utmost respect for the investigative process, after speaking with Marshawn, we are comfortable these accusations are bogus

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11343 ... ynch-bogus

Pretty strong statement considering the team generally always waits till all the facts are in before issuing a statement.

Kind of what I thought when I heard it as well. Typically it's the "we are monitoring the situation closely" press release, something tells me this might be one of those attention seeking fans, or a scorned women.

I just read that the allegations do not include domestic violence or sexual assault. Ruling those two out takes the seriousness down a number of pegs.

I'm hoping it's nothing, but these things tend to flare up again later if not quashed early.
Maybe the police will make a decision in short order.

NorthHawk wrote:I'm hoping it's nothing, but these things tend to flare up again later if not quashed early.
Maybe the police will make a decision in short order.

Which IMO is why the Seahawks took the step of getting out ahead of this story and speaking on Lynch's behalf.

Here's the most information I can glean about the charges:

The Bellevue, Wash., police department is investigating Seahawks running back Marshawn Lynch after receiving an "allegation of an assault and personal property damage" at a local apartment early Sunday morning, the department said in news release issued Monday.

According to the department, via the Seattle Post Intelligencer, detectives are not investigating for domestic violence or sexual assault.

If that's the case, then there's not a lot to investigate, and aware that any delay invites speculation by the media and fans like us, I'm sure that the police will issue a statement here shortly.

This is one of those times when I really wish Lynch were dating Kathy Griffin.

A month ago (more or less) the NFL Network high lighted the NFL's Rookie Orientation. This orientation tries to help rookies, especially the higher draft choices, who now have more money than they have ever had in their lives. The NFL tries to prepare these young players with the pit falls that can happen with this new found wealth. They even have former NFL stars that made millions of dollars over the course of their careers yet now are not only broke but heavily in debt.

One of the areas the NFL covers is that NFL players, especially the stars, can and will be targets of people who don't have the players best interests at heart. Financial advisors that steer players in to dubious tax shelters and other investments.

Another set of people they warn these rookies about are WOMEN. Women who target a player in hopes of that player becoming their "meal ticket". There are players who have multiple children with multiple women, women who consider themselves to have hit the mother-lode as soon as they are knocked up. Sometimes a player will see through these parasites and these women have to fall back on their "plan B". What is plan B?? Plan B is accusing the player of assault, and sexual assault if the player was stupid enough to sleep with her. If that happens then said player is going to pay, and pay big.

I can see where maybe Marshawn possibly found himself involved with just such a person and was trying to end it with woman and she wasn't having none of it until she had her big pay day and called the police.

All of this brings me back to my earlier post where I said that I was disappointed in Lynch for being out catting around in the wee hours of the morning when he should be concentrating on TC. He has been in the league long enough too not get caught up in such traps, it isn't like he is a brand new wet behind the ears no nothing rookie who don't know about these predator type people. I have to admit, I would have expected something like this to have happened to Bruce Irvin when he was a rookie or last year, not a veteran like Lynch.

Anyway, I hope that Marshawn didn't do anything really wrong and that the person he had an altercation with was one of these predators that professional athletes should avoid.

Bellevue police say he wasn't even involved. Thank you Marshawn, for being a grown up.

http://www.king5.com/sports/seahawks/Ma ... 81371.html

Before the Bellevue Police decided to splash Lynch's name to all of the media they should have ascertained whether their person of interest was actually Marshawn Lynch. Lynch, it turns out was exactly where he was supposed to be, at the team hotel and in bed resting his weary bones. I don't think some women was scammed by a Beast-mode look-a-like I believe it was a scam to shake Lynch down. Luckily for him he was under lock down by the team.

Let this be a lesson for professional athletes both men and women that there are predators out there that will smile to your face while stabbing you in the back. In racing these people are called "pit-lizards", other crafts and industries have different if not similar names. Anyway, I am relieved that Marshawn has been cleared of all charges and wasn't even there. He DOES know how to honor a commitment!

Seahawks4Ever wrote:Before the Bellevue Police decided to splash Lynch's name to all of the media they should have ascertained whether their person of interest was actually Marshawn Lynch. Lynch, it turns out was exactly where he was supposed to be, at the team hotel and in bed resting his weary bones. I don't think some women was scammed by a Beast-mode look-a-like I believe it was a scam to shake Lynch down. Luckily for him he was under lock down by the team.

Let this be a lesson for professional athletes both men and women that there are predators out there that will smile to your face while stabbing you in the back. In racing these people are called "pit-lizards", other crafts and industries have different if not similar names. Anyway, I am relieved that Marshawn has been cleared of all charges and wasn't even there. He DOES know how to honor a commitment!

I am quite certain that the BPD did not "splash Lynch's name to all of the media." It's public information.

RiverDog wrote:

Seahawks4Ever wrote:Before the Bellevue Police decided to splash Lynch's name to all of the media they should have ascertained whether their person of interest was actually Marshawn Lynch. Lynch, it turns out was exactly where he was supposed to be, at the team hotel and in bed resting his weary bones. I don't think some women was scammed by a Beast-mode look-a-like I believe it was a scam to shake Lynch down. Luckily for him he was under lock down by the team.

Let this be a lesson for professional athletes both men and women that there are predators out there that will smile to your face while stabbing you in the back. In racing these people are called "pit-lizards", other crafts and industries have different if not similar names. Anyway, I am relieved that Marshawn has been cleared of all charges and wasn't even there. He DOES know how to honor a commitment!

I am quite certain that the BPD did not "splash Lynch's name to all of the media." It's public information.

Arrests are public information, indictments are, bookings are, convictions are ... but allegations and investigations? No, they're not.

c_hawkbob wrote:

RiverDog wrote:

Seahawks4Ever wrote:Before the Bellevue Police decided to splash Lynch's name to all of the media they should have ascertained whether their person of interest was actually Marshawn Lynch. Lynch, it turns out was exactly where he was supposed to be, at the team hotel and in bed resting his weary bones. I don't think some women was scammed by a Beast-mode look-a-like I believe it was a scam to shake Lynch down. Luckily for him he was under lock down by the team.

Let this be a lesson for professional athletes both men and women that there are predators out there that will smile to your face while stabbing you in the back. In racing these people are called "pit-lizards", other crafts and industries have different if not similar names. Anyway, I am relieved that Marshawn has been cleared of all charges and wasn't even there. He DOES know how to honor a commitment!

I am quite certain that the BPD did not "splash Lynch's name to all of the media." It's public information.

Arrests are public information, indictments are, bookings are, convictions are ... but allegations and investigations? No, they're not.

The Bellevue PD did get some inquiries as to why they did a press release in this case. The response is here;

http://blog.seattlepi.com/football/2014 ... awn-lynch/

And no, they did not contact Lynch before putting out the release. I don't know if it was the right thing or wrong thing to do but I think the intention was correct.

Yeah right, blame it on social media ... that seems legit.

Yeah Bob, just because you grew up without celphones, IPads, Social Media and survived (how did we do it?) ... it's just more 'toys' for boys today.

js

Postby obiken » Tue Aug 12, 2014 2:58 am

No he will charged and he will be gone for the year. We just have to move on.



Beast I am sorry, You were totally innocent!! I will never doubt you again. As a punishment I will watch a Niners Pre-season game. YUK!!

Obi

That seemed like quite a leap when you first posted, and I almost responded to it, but I'm fairly confident that Beast wouldn't want that as a "punishment", maybe make a donation to his kids first foundation or something instead. Therthere's penance and then there's sadomasochistic tendencies.

c_hawkbob wrote:

RiverDog wrote:

Seahawks4Ever wrote:Before the Bellevue Police decided to splash Lynch's name to all of the media they should have ascertained whether their person of interest was actually Marshawn Lynch. Lynch, it turns out was exactly where he was supposed to be, at the team hotel and in bed resting his weary bones. I don't think some women was scammed by a Beast-mode look-a-like I believe it was a scam to shake Lynch down. Luckily for him he was under lock down by the team.

Let this be a lesson for professional athletes both men and women that there are predators out there that will smile to your face while stabbing you in the back. In racing these people are called "pit-lizards", other crafts and industries have different if not similar names. Anyway, I am relieved that Marshawn has been cleared of all charges and wasn't even there. He DOES know how to honor a commitment!

I am quite certain that the BPD did not "splash Lynch's name to all of the media." It's public information.

Arrests are public information, indictments are, bookings are, convictions are ... but allegations and investigations? No, they're not.

Yea, you're right. The more I thought about it, the more I recalled other cases where the police have released information about suspects prior to an investigation being complete. Aaron Hernandez's name came up as being a suspect well before he was arrested or charged. I guess a lot of it depends on whether or not they think releasing names will hurt their investigative efforts.

After reading the link, it would seem that the police did the right thing in releasing certain details. I know if I were Lynch I wouldn't be upset.

I sure would be! Once your name is out there in a case like this, whether you did it or not the association is made in many peoples minds. The sound bite doesn't go away nowadays, the bell can't be unrung if you will ... they can can say "oops" all they want, but a measure of harm is still done.

The very least the BPD should have done is check Marshawn's alibi (which in this case would have taken a single phone call) before issuing a press release. And IMO "they were talking about it on twitter" is even more of a reason to have made that call first, not an excuse to jump the gun!

c_hawkbob wrote:I sure would be! Once your name is out there in a case like this, whether you did it or not the association is made in many peoples minds. The sound bite doesn't go away nowadays, the bell can't be unrung if you will ... they can can say "oops" all they want, but a measure of harm is still done.

The very least the BPD should have done is check Marshawn's alibi (which in this case would have taken a single phone call) before issuing a press release. And IMO "they were talking about it on twitter" is even more of a reason to have made that call first, not an excuse to jump the gun!

Which is why they felt that they had to issue a public statement quickly rather than wait a few days and have it really get out of hand. I also think it would have taken more than a single phone call to confirm Beast's alibi. Unless there are extenuating circumstances, are not most police interviews done face-to-face? How do they know the identity of who they are talking to if all they have is a telephone connection? We also don't know what the BPD's work load was. Being that it was a pretty lame charge, property damage, they may have had bigger fish to fry. I don't think a couple of days is an exceeding long period of time to complete an investigation like this.

If you're looking for a villain, look for the person who filed these charges. She's the one that ought to be the target of our angst.

RiverDog wrote:

c_hawkbob wrote:I sure would be! Once your name is out there in a case like this, whether you did it or not the association is made in many peoples minds. The sound bite doesn't go away nowadays, the bell can't be unrung if you will ... they can can say "oops" all they want, but a measure of harm is still done.

The very least the BPD should have done is check Marshawn's alibi (which in this case would have taken a single phone call) before issuing a press release. And IMO "they were talking about it on twitter" is even more of a reason to have made that call first, not an excuse to jump the gun!

Which is why they felt that they had to issue a public statement quickly rather than wait a few days and have it really get out of hand. I also think it would have taken more than a single phone call to confirm Beast's alibi. Unless there are extenuating circumstances, are not most police interviews done face-to-face? How do they know the identity of who they are talking to if all they have is a telephone connection? We also don't know what the BPD's work load was. Being that it was a pretty lame charge, property damage, they may have had bigger fish to fry. I don't think a couple of days is an exceeding long period of time to complete an investigation like this.

If you're looking for a villain, look for the person who filed these charges. She's the one that ought to be the target of our angst.

Sorry, but we just completely disagree on this one. I'm not 'looking for a villain", but the BPD just completely mishandles this. I bet someone got either fired or demoted over it too. You just can't issue a statement that you're investigating this celebrity or that one every time a complaint is filed without a cursory fact check to ascertain the allegation's feasibility first. It's irresponsible.

One of those things where I think Bobs point and RD's point is completely valid. Go either way and you can be criticized. I do prefer a world where law enforcement keeps investigations quiet until such time as an arrest is made. But in this case the guy that "broke' the story (and he is quite proud of it) simply had it way wrong. I do think the BPD acted in what they thought was everyone's best interest.

Frankly there is typically little loss for the media to run with a story without confirmation. I guess in the end if it is egregious they can be sued, but to sue a news organization you have to show actually dollar losses to win a claim. It's difficult to prove damage to your name. As Bob said, in this world of TMZ and PFT once it gets out there - its out there. As a prime example look at our earlier discussion re Percy Harvin character issues. Some were quoting stories from years back, while others were pointing out the stories contained zero confirmation from the direct sources - even after years. Basically they are just stories. They could be completely fabricated or they could be second hand accounts of direct witnesses. You have no way of knowing.

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