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... Russell Wilson is more trustworthy than Colin Kaepernick

What a great headline eh?

Peter King likes our boy: http://bleacherreport.com/tb/ddzym?utm_ ... e-seahawks

I love it, and, so far, it is the truth. I'm really looking for this season to separate Wilson and Kaepernick even more.

Yep..... wait for the argument.... you KNOW he can't leave this one alone.... brace yourselves for maximum Kap jock sniffing at it's finest....

HumanCockroach wrote:Yep..... wait for the argument.... you KNOW he can't leave this one alone.... brace yourselves for maximum Kap jock sniffing at it's finest....

LOL yeah should be interesting.

Maybe this is one of those that he ignores ( kind of like the factual rebuttals to his arguments).

So if I argue against it, I'm a homer. If I don't argue, I've got nothing. Lol win win!

RW has played some great 4th qtr ball in his career. Hey if people believe he's more trustworthy than Kaep I can see why, hats off. Kaep has been great in the clutch and I am plenty happy with him. Let me know when RW marches his team 80 yds with 3 min in the road v a great D to win. Or even Houston's or Indy's. Same argument we had before .

Future; I guess you missed the come back against Houston last year or the double come back against the Bears the year before? Oh, and you really missed the NFC Championship game too I take it?

Kap plays behind one of the best O-Lines in the NFL and RW plays behind one of the worst but I guess you never take that in consideration. I wonder how Kap would do playing with our last season's O-Line??? Probably not nearly as well as Russell did that's for sure.

RW didn't choke in the NFC Championship game last season Kap did, just like he choked in the Super Bowl the year before.

Futureite wrote:So if I argue against it, I'm a homer. If I don't argue, I've got nothing. Lol win win!

RW has played some great 4th qtr ball in his career. Hey if people believe he's more trustworthy than Kaep I can see why, hats off. Kaep has been great in the clutch and I am plenty happy with him. Let me know when RW marches his team 80 yds with 3 min in the road v a great D to win. Or even Houston's or Indy's. Same argument we had before .

I'm fine with him only having the second most comeback victories in the NFL over the last two seasons ( trails Luck by two games, course I guess when you aren't digging a hole as often as Mr. Luck, the opportunities go down, but what ever) if you read the article, it has nothing to do with that anyway, it has to do with the ability to read defenses ( I think they describe it as football "smarts". Meaning Wilson has more in his opinion, Kap not so much, which makes King "trust" him less).

Seahawks4Ever wrote:Future; I guess you missed the come back against Houston last year or the double come back against the Bears the year before? Oh, and you really missed the NFC Championship game too I take it?

Kap plays behind one of the best O-Lines in the NFL and RW plays behind one of the worst but I guess you never take that in consideration. I wonder how Kap would do playing with our last season's O-Line??? Probably not nearly as well as Russell did that's for sure.

RW didn't choke in the NFC Championship game last season Kap did, just like he choked in the Super Bowl the year before.

Ya I missed the NFCCCG. Missed Lynch busting a 40+ yd TD to tie the game at 10 and Baldwin returning a kickoff 70+ yds back to answer Kaep's TD drive that made it 17-10. All of that was engeneered by RW of course. Missed the 3 total points he put up for your O in 2 4th qtr redzone opportunitues. And one missed opportunity came from a botched handoff.

I acknowledge that Kaep played a poor 4th qtr, but the way some of you paint RW's as clutch in that game is a joke. He had ZERO pressure and still did nothing to close the deal. If anything, he kept us in the game. Like I've said, I could never prove that RW would have failed to drive 80 yds in 3 min at Clink as an opposing QB, but based on the way he played I strongly doubt it.

And I did not miss Hou. I was right in front of the TV when Hou's RB fumbled late 3rd/early 4th to set up a FG, and when Ruchard Sherman followed it with a pick 6 to tie it at 20. I watched both teams do nothing in OT until the Texans made a persinal foul penalty to set up the winning FG.

RW has been great in the 4th overall as I said, but you completely ignored my point. The guy has not done jack against our D on the road in the 4th either, and the NFCCCG is a convenient and lazy example to use to prove your point.

I don't think it's all that bold a prediction to pick last year's champ, but, being a superstitious guy about some things, I'm getting tired of pointing out how much better we were/are, as well as of all the accolades.

It feels like I'm jinxing it, and that the chip on our shoulder is melting.

http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/playbypla ... =330113001

I can post more if you would like. I suppose you'll say that Seattle didn't win the game, or that he Had 3 Minutes and 10 seconds as opposed three minutes. You'll dismiss that the defense faltered that day( it is after all what you seem hell bent on doing). Like you claimed Lynch or whatever in the NFCCG I can post the box score for the Bears if you would like, and a few others if it is what you need.

One thing no one mentioned was that the top 4 teams are all in the NFC.

One thing no one mentioned was that the top 4 teams are all in the NFC.

Futureite wrote:So if I argue against it, I'm a homer. If I don't argue, I've got nothing. Lol win win!

RW has played some great 4th qtr ball in his career. Hey if people believe he's more trustworthy than Kaep I can see why, hats off. Kaep has been great in the clutch and I am plenty happy with him. Let me know when RW marches his team 80 yds with 3 min in the road v a great D to win. Or even Houston's or Indy's. Same argument we had before .

and he has and you know it, your just being difficult, you really are a waste

HumanCockroach wrote:

Futureite wrote:So if I argue against it, I'm a homer. If I don't argue, I've got nothing. Lol win win!

RW has played some great 4th qtr ball in his career. Hey if people believe he's more trustworthy than Kaep I can see why, hats off. Kaep has been great in the clutch and I am plenty happy with him. Let me know when RW marches his team 80 yds with 3 min in the road v a great D to win. Or even Houston's or Indy's. Same argument we had before .

I'm fine with him only having the second most comeback victories in the NFL over the last two seasons ( trails Luck by two games, course I guess when you aren't digging a hole as often as Mr. Luck, the opportunities go down, but what ever) if you read the article, it has nothing to do with that anyway, it has to do with the ability to read defenses ( I think they describe it as football "smarts". Meaning Wilson has more in his opinion, Kap not so much, which makes King "trust" him less).

Actually only 1 game

RW 8 fourth quarter comebacks, 10 game-winning drives

Luck 8 fourth quarter comebacks, 11 game-winning drives

Kap 5 fourth quarter comebacks, 6 game-winning drives

Futureite wrote:

Seahawks4Ever wrote:Future; I guess you missed the come back against Houston last year or the double come back against the Bears the year before? Oh, and you really missed the NFC Championship game too I take it?

Kap plays behind one of the best O-Lines in the NFL and RW plays behind one of the worst but I guess you never take that in consideration. I wonder how Kap would do playing with our last season's O-Line??? Probably not nearly as well as Russell did that's for sure.

RW didn't choke in the NFC Championship game last season Kap did, just like he choked in the Super Bowl the year before.

Ya I missed the NFCCCG. Missed Lynch busting a 40+ yd TD to tie the game at 10 and Baldwin returning a kickoff 70+ yds back to answer Kaep's TD drive that made it 17-10. All of that was engeneered by RW of course. Missed the 3 total points he put up for your O in 2 4th qtr redzone opportunitues. And one missed opportunity came from a botched handoff.

I acknowledge that Kaep played a poor 4th qtr, but the way some of you paint RW's as clutch in that game is a joke. He had ZERO pressure and still did nothing to close the deal. If anything, he kept us in the game. Like I've said, I could never prove that RW would have failed to drive 80 yds in 3 min at Clink as an opposing QB, but based on the way he played I strongly doubt it.

And I did not miss Hou. I was right in front of the TV when Hou's RB fumbled late 3rd/early 4th to set up a FG, and when Ruchard Sherman followed it with a pick 6 to tie it at 20. I watched both teams do nothing in OT until the Texans made a persinal foul penalty to set up the winning FG.

RW has been great in the 4th overall as I said, but you completely ignored my point. The guy has not done jack against our D on the road in the 4th either, and the NFCCCG is a convenient and lazy example to use to prove your point.

More crap more excuses more nothing. By the way it is not like Kap has done anything much period in our house. Lets see in 2 games in our house last year Kap is

27-52 280 yards(140 per game), 51.9 complt%, 5.46 ypa, 1 td, 5 ints, qb rating 38.25

Lets look at Rw in your house last year only played 1game in SF house compared to the 2 they played in ours

15-29 175 yards, 51.7 complt%, 6.03 ypa, 1 td, 1 int qb rating 67.5

Hmm RW did better in your house then Kap did in ours

And of course in the NFCG when it matter most Kap QB rating 56.4, Rw 104.6 enough said

By the way how come Kap could not get a TD when he had the ball on the Seattle 15? How come Kap could not score when he had 1st down at the Seattle 18 and instead threw the game away? You opened your mouth, and inserted your own foot, enjoy the tastes.

Lets look at

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HumanCockroach wrote:

Futureite wrote:So if I argue against it, I'm a homer. If I don't argue, I've got nothing. Lol win win!

RW has played some great 4th qtr ball in his career. Hey if people believe he's more trustworthy than Kaep I can see why, hats off. Kaep has been great in the clutch and I am plenty happy with him. Let me know when RW marches his team 80 yds with 3 min in the road v a great D to win. Or even Houston's or Indy's. Same argument we had before .

I'm fine with him only having the second most comeback victories in the NFL over the last two seasons ( trails Luck by two games, course I guess when you aren't digging a hole as often as Mr. Luck, the opportunities go down, but what ever) if you read the article, it has nothing to do with that anyway, it has to do with the ability to read defenses ( I think they describe it as football "smarts". Meaning Wilson has more in his opinion, Kap not so much, which makes King "trust" him less).

Actually only 1 game

RW 8 fourth quarter comebacks, 10 game-winning drives

Luck 8 fourth quarter comebacks, 11 game-winning drives

Kap 5 fourth quarter comebacks, 6 game-winning drives

My mistake. apologise. ( see it can be done).

HumanCockroach wrote:


My mistake. apologise. ( see it can be done).

LOL no worries dude were good and just incase anyone asks here is the link

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/p ... r=WilsRu00

And you are right it can be done, but only by reasonable adults.

Yep, hopefully, someone in dire need of the lesson picks up on it I'm not holding my breath or anything

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