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by **obiken** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 1:40 pm

Colin Cowherd is reporting if JH is offered the Denver job he will take it. The Figure is 20 million.

by **Aseahawkfan** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 1:56 pm

I think JIm's a great coach. A little crazy, but a great coach. He would make that division more interesting.

by **RiverDog** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 2:12 pm

First off, Harbaugh himself said recently that he was staying at Michigan.

Secondly, there's other teams out there that would be more attractive than the Denver job. Carolina, for example, is one, and they've supposedly had a conversation with him.

I wouldn't put a whole lot of weight on what Cowherd, or any other talking head says about the situation. They're all speculating.

by **Hawktawk** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 2:25 pm

Harbaugh has lost his bowl game 6 or 7 years in a row . Including 1 and done twice in the series . He almost jumped last year and likely will this year . Penner can just buy the guy , he’s richer than god .
Russ would need to have his head on a swivel. Ask Alex Smith benched after missing 2 games with a concussion for Kap. Smith led the league in completion % and qbr on a super bowl bound team . My guess any big name coming there would demand control over Wilson with indemnity from the organization .
I think he’s a royal A hole. I’d never want to play for him . Or root for him as my coach .

by **NorthHawk** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:27 pm

obiken wrote:Colin Cowherd is reporting if JH is offered the Denver job he will take it. The Figure is 20 million.

Old story. Cowherd is behind the curve as PFT reported a story few days ago that if he was offered a job as HC, he would take it and they also said that the Broncos were asking about his interest.
It would be interesting to see how he handles Wilson and his big contract without a couple of draft picks this year.

by **obiken** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 3:33 pm

RiverDog wrote:First off, Harbaugh himself said recently that he was staying at Michigan.

Secondly, there's other teams out there that would be more attractive than the Denver job. Carolina, for example, is one, and they've supposedly had a conversation with him.

I wouldn't put a whole lot of weight on what Cowherd, or any other talking head says about the situation. They're all speculating.

Sorry, I would. He was spot on when you and CB said there was no way RW was leaving Seattle. He has a lot of sources, like Bruce Feldman of Fox, he has others that he cannot name. I just think that Peyton passes on this job due to the dumpster fire motif.

by **RiverDog** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 4:02 pm

obiken wrote:Sorry, I would. He was spot on when you and CB said there was no way RW was leaving Seattle. He has a lot of sources, like Bruce Feldman of Fox, he has others that he cannot name. I just think that Peyton passes on this job due to the dumpster fire motif.

I never said that there was 'no way' Russell was leaving Seattle.

Believe what you want, but I'll bet you a beer that if Harbaugh returns to the NFL, it won't be to Denver.

Harbaugh recently spoke with Carolina's owner, but it's not known if he offered him a job. That would make sense as he could be waiting for Black Monday when many teams fire their head coaches as there could be more attractive jobs/offers out there besides the Panthers.

by **Aseahawkfan** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 4:36 pm

I want Jim Harbaugh back in the NFL. He gets his team playing with fire and he makes the news more interesting. Just needs an owner that can handle his nutty intensity.

The Frisco vs. Seattle rivalry was way more fun when Harbaugh was coaching.

by **Hawktawk** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:46 pm

The dumbest thing Carolina could do is fire Wilks so they probably will . He took a DOA team that had fired their coach and traded their best player within a game of the division and lost a close game at that . He did take some shots at the owner for trying to tank so he’s probably dead . But I don’t see all these sure fire openings . Az, Denver , maybe Dallas if they fail . Riveras seat went up a couple degrees when he admitted after last week he wasn’t aware they would be eliminated with a loss . Presumably that’s why he decided to see how Wendz looked . Not good . Who else ? Texans ? Colts . Saturday has admitted he’s not cut out for it . The 2 presumed blue chip guys Hairball and Payton and then who are the candidates ? College guys ? Coordinators ?

by **RiverDog** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 6:04 pm

Hawktawk wrote:The dumbest thing Carolina could do is fire Wilks so they probably will . He took a DOA team that had fired their coach and traded their best player within a game of the division and lost a close game at that . He did take some shots at the owner for trying to tank so he’s probably dead . But I don’t see all these sure fire openings . Az, Denver , maybe Dallas if they fail . Riveras seat went up a couple degrees when he admitted after last week he wasn’t aware they would be eliminated with a loss . Presumably that’s why he decided to see how Wendz looked . Not good . Who else ? Texans ? Colts . Saturday has admitted he’s not cut out for it . The 2 presumed blue chip guys Hairball and Payton and then who are the candidates ? College guys ? Coordinators ?

There's a number of possibilities. Saleh's job with the Jets could be jeopardy the way they've crashed and burned. Kevin Stefanski could be gone in Cleveland. The Raiders' Josh McDaniel, who was rumored to be in trouble way back in October, could still be gone. We should find out within the next few days.

by **trents** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 10:17 pm

I would be very surprised if McDaniel is not canned. IMO the Raiders have underachieved during his tenure.

by **NorthHawk** » Tue Jan 03, 2023 11:14 pm

Mark Davis doesn’t have enough money to pay for 3 coaches - or even 2 for that matter.
McDaniel will probably stay for at least one more year.

by **MackStrongIsMyHero** » Wed Jan 04, 2023 5:54 am

I don't think Harbaugh is going anywhere. He's got a sophomore stud at QB that if not for a couple of uncharacteristic interceptions (he only threw 4 all season I think), they'd be in the 'ship. I think that squad is primed for another run.

by **obiken** » Wed Jan 04, 2023 6:47 am

trents wrote:I would be very surprised if McDaniel is not canned. IMO the Raiders have underachieved during his tenure.

Trents I would be surprised if he was. He is an offensive coach that had a lot of things disintegrate, he took over a trash can. I think benching Carr shows that management will support him for another year. There is 0 way you can survive in the AFC West, without an all world QB. I am not however, sold out to that position. I think it could go either way. The Jets, or the Giants, could get Carr and be a Playoff contender.

by **c_hawkbob** » Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:04 am

I think Hairball to Denver is fairly likely myself. He's got a reputation as a 'fix this sh!t' kinda coach, I think he'd jump on it if offered.

by **Hawktawk** » Wed Jan 04, 2023 7:16 am

Josh McDaniel ain’t goin anywhere . 1 year in after they foolishly fired interim special teams cosch Rich Biasachi after he took them to the postseason . He’s the only man in history to replace a cosch fired midseaon and get to the postseason . McDaniel is getting another year with Stidham who looked like a stud Saleh was in playoff contention till week 17 with terrible play out of the qb position . He’s back or he’s unemployed 10 minutes like Vrabel will be if he’s canned . Stefanski inherited a qb mess and they played hard all year . Knocked out the Commanders . He’s staying . The league reminded owners they have spent just under a billion dollar in the last 5 years buying out coaches and GMs .

Like I say if these organizations fire their coach who do they hire ? Hacketts available ?

by **NorthHawk** » Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:15 am

Now the Panthers are interested after firing Ruhle.
Both owners of Panthers and Broncos have more money than god so that's not the issue. Maybe he's playing them off each other to get the max salary offer and total control of the roster.

by **Hawktawk** » Wed Jan 04, 2023 8:39 am

NorthHawk wrote:Now the Panthers are interested after firing Ruhle.
Both owners of Panthers and Broncos have more money than god so that's not the issue. Maybe he's playing them off each other to get the max salary offer and total control of the roster.

Maybe . As I’ve said and heard repeated on sports media why not keep Wilks ? He’s a great coach to do what he did there . He outcoached Pete Carrol back to the leather helmet era , a few other teams too . But that’s what owners do . As for the most desirable locations Carolina is in a division that might be won by an 8-9 team . It’s an easy division to take control of . Denver is looking up at 2 playoff teams maybe the 1 seed at that . Saddled with a huge contract on an underperforming qb. And based on Penners comments the plan remains to “ fix “ him .
If I’m Hairball im taking Carolina. But let’s see the money .

by **NorthHawk** » Wed Jan 04, 2023 9:39 am

Panthers currently own the 9th overall pick in this draft, so they could move up for a QB if the new coach wants one.
The weather is better in Carolina as well so those are 2 things going for that team if they want him.
But maybe he wants to be in the same Conference as his brother? I would think that would be a smaller factor in his decision but you never know.
I think if he believes in Wilson then the choice would be easy because he wants to win now. If he doesn't then the money/control might be the deciding factors.

It's interesting either way.

by **Agent 86** » Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:31 am

FWIW from this morning straight from Harbaugh. He says he sees himself coaching Michigan next year, but we all know that means squat when money and power talks.

https://www.thescore.com/ncaaf/news/2535152/harbaugh-amid-reported-nfl-interest-i-think-i-will-be-coaching-michigan

by **NorthHawk** » Wed Jan 04, 2023 10:43 am

Pressure tactic to increase the offers. Good move on his part - non committal and leaving room for options.

by **RiverDog** » Wed Jan 04, 2023 1:58 pm

Agent 86 wrote:FWIW from this morning straight from Harbaugh. He says he sees himself coaching Michigan next year, but we all know that means squat when money and power talks.

Probably as good as Russell's word when he said that it was "my hope" that he'd play for the Hawks.

These guys would make great lawyers.

by **NorthHawk** » Thu Jan 05, 2023 9:23 am

Not Harby, but it sounds like Arizona will fire Kingsbury if this report is accurate.

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2023/ ... -kingsbury

by **Aseahawkfan** » Thu Jan 05, 2023 5:58 pm

Soon we will have RD's yearly "coaches fired" thread.

by **RiverDog** » Thu Jan 05, 2023 7:28 pm

Aseahawkfan wrote:Soon we will have RD's yearly "coaches fired" thread.

Yeah, Black Monday is almost upon us. However, due to the Hamlin injury, the season is in flux right now, so I'll wait a few days.

by **Hawktawk** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:32 am

Reported that Hairball is facing accusations of misconduct . Not the most serous but now there’s that . Someone has a link I’m sure

by **NorthHawk** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 8:46 am

Here's one link:

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... n-by-ncaa/

by **RiverDog** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 9:43 am

Hawktawk wrote:Reported that Hairball is facing accusations of misconduct . Not the most serous but now there’s that . Someone has a link I’m sure

It said that Hairball refused to cooperate with investigators. Boy, that shoe sure fits, doesn't it?

by **Hawktawk** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:20 pm

Hawktawk wrote:Reported that Hairball is facing accusations of misconduct . Not the most serous but now there’s that . Someone has a link I’m sure

It said that Hairball refused to cooperate with investigators. Boy, that shoe sure fits, doesn't it?[/quote]

People can say what they want. When he was in the league Pete stole his lunch money . One SB loss , 1 quarterback double crossed and gave rise to the kneeler . Hasn’t won the big one in college , 1 win over Ohio state . And he’s an Ahole . Smart ass . Smarter then everyone . I wouldn’t want him as an owner or fan or as a qb for sure .

by **obiken** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:24 pm

No really, he was an equal to PC, Pete just had the better QB.

by **Hawktawk** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 1:31 pm

obiken wrote:No really, he was an equal to PC, Pete just had the better QB.

Yeah but it was Richard Sherman and Malcolm smith that sent us to 48. Russ hadn’t closed it out . If we didn’t have Sherman we’re probably staying home . Glad we didn’t have to find out . We had a better team . I’ve often wondered how San Fran might have done with Alex Smith in that super bowl . Not as dynamic but accurate and smart . I always thought what Hairball did to him was evil.

by **RiverDog** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:10 pm

obiken wrote:No really, he was an equal to PC, Pete just had the better QB.

Hairball walked into a full cabinet stacked with former #1 draft picks. He didn't build that franchise, it was built for him. Plus, after a short tenure of just 4 years, he left the team in shambles. In the 4 years after Hairball left, the Niners went 5-11, 2-14, 6-10, and 4-12. No way was he Pete's equal.

And I'm with Hawktawk. I can't stand the SOB. But I would like to see him back coaching in our division again. We had the best rivalry in the league when he was with the Niners. It always helps to have a villain to root against.

by **RiverDog** » Fri Jan 06, 2023 4:25 pm

More about the NCAA's investigation into possible violations that Hairball may have committed:

College football insider Dan Wetzel reported that Michigan has been accused of four Level II violations and one Level I violations.

Level II violations are considered minor infractions, and the report indicates that Michigan allegedly met with recruits during the Covid-19 dead period, watched players work out on a video, and had too many coaches at a training session. One notable claim among the reports is that the NCAA found "evidence" that Harbaugh lied about having bought hamburgers for recruits at a restaurant.

But the Level I violation is more serious, and may relate to how Harbaugh allegedly handled the NCAA investigation. And it could result in Harbaugh facing a suspension in the future in a potential worst-case scenario. "The Level I allegation is that Harbaugh misled NCAA investigators when confronted with questions about the Level II allegations," the report reads.

"A Level I violation could lead to significant recruiting restrictions or even a suspension for a number of games."

Michigan reportedly received a Notice of Allegations from the NCAA on Thursday.

https://www.si.com/fannation/college/cf ... suspension

Why would you lie about something as trivial as buying some recruits cheeseburgers?

by **NorthHawk** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 4:47 pm

The Saints have given permission for Payton to meet with the Broncos regarding the HC position.

by **RiverDog** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:31 pm

NorthHawk wrote:The Saints have given permission for Payton to meet with the Broncos regarding the HC position.

I saw that, but I have a hard time believing that Payton would ever take that job. First of all, it's going to take at least a first round draft pick to get him. The Broncos do have a 1st rounder in 2023 due to the Bradley Chubb trade, but that pick was originally the Niners, so it's likely going to be in the high 20's, so they'll want more than that or a 2024 first rounder. He wouldn't have very many resources to rebuild the team in his mold. Secondly, as you have pointed out on several occasions, Payton has expressed a preference for a warm weather city, and Denver is anything but. And lastly, Payton would hardly be working on a clean slate when it comes to the quarterback, not to mention that albatross of a contract.

It's possible that Payton is feigning interest in the Broncos to drive up an offer from some other team, like the Cards.

by **NorthHawk** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 5:50 pm

Yah, lying season is starting early.

by **Hawktawk** » Sat Jan 07, 2023 6:30 pm

Better start the thread river . And I did see where they want to interview Payton. I’ll never underestimate some of the richest owners in sports though . They can buy him . He will have plenty of offers I need they just out bid everyone . As for Wilson no established coach is taking that job with a mandate of fixing him.

by **NorthHawk** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:11 am

Broncos expect to interview Harbaugh this week.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... this-week/

by **RiverDog** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 10:49 am

It doesn't sound like Hairball will be coaching the Panthers. Reports are that him and Panther's owner David Tepper spoke about the job, but that the call wasn't initiated by Tepper:

The Panthers spoke with Jim Harbaugh recently but only after a good deal of persistence on Harbaugh’s side. Carolina plans to focus its efforts elsewhere

https://twitter.com/jjones9/status/1612 ... m-harbaugh

Contrary to how Hairball is trying to portray it in the media, it's pretty clear that he wants out of Dodge. I'm wondering if these latest NCAA violations has anything to do with his desire to coach again in the NFL.

by **Hawktawk** » Sun Jan 08, 2023 2:05 pm

It you look at the overall body of work he’s the bridesmaid coach , never the bride . And the attitude is baggage . He’s annoying . Who wants to pay some smart ass 10 million to go close but no cigar .

In other news regarding the Donkeys stupid money Greg Penner decided he didn’t like the condition of the field after the season , HS football etc . So he ordered the field in Denver to be sliced off and re grassed with sod prior to the final game of the season for his 4 win team . Cost was 400K. It will need done again before next season .
In the words of the great Drew Carey “ that’s stupid money “

As a turf manager I shake my head at these stadium fields anyway but it demonstrated money is absolutely no
Object . They will buy Payton . Buyer beware imo but they will .

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