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I think we should give a shout out to our OL coaches Andy Dickerson and Assistant OL coach Keli'l Kekuewa.
Getting one rookie Lineman ready for the season and who he would have to face is enough of a challenge but getting the productivity that
we’re getting from bookend OT’s that we are getting is a huge accomplishment. They both have more to learn, but as we near the halfway
mark, their performance has been surprisingly steady. It can’t be forgotten that we also now have a decent Center to help them along
and maybe that’s a big part of it also.

I think coaching has less of an effect than most, but good job O-line coaches.

I'd also like to thank who scouted them. It seems Pete and John found a better O-line scout who finally found some elite talent at those positions. Good job scouts at finally finding some great tackles.

Aseahawkfan wrote:I think coaching has less of an effect than most, but good job O-line coaches.

I'd also like to thank who scouted them. It seems Pete and John found a better O-line scout who finally found some elite talent at those positions. Good job scouts at finally finding some great tackles.

Cross was consistently ranked amongst the top 3-4 tackles, so it was a conventional wisdom sort of selection. Cbob had him with our first selection in his 3 deep draft. Lucas was the sleeper that turned out to be a gem.

It's too bad that we didn't take Creed Humphrey instead of Eskridge in the 2021 draft. We woulda been set for the next 5 years. But then there's that thing about aunts and balls.

I'm glad that we've finally started dedicating some resources to the OL. That's been one of the areas that I've been the most critical of Pete, and he seems to have recognized that with this past draft. It's caused me to get on foot back onto his bandwagon.

Don’t sleep on eskridge . He’s slowly gaining steam . He had 37 yards on 3 of 4 targets and had a big PI call too a week ago . Like a few other guys such as Colby Parkinson . Just don’t put Dee at Tailback or Dee Jay at quarterback . But don’t sleep on Eskridge making any plays. Not likely he ever justifies where he was taken but he’s one of the fastest guys on a really fast team .

Hawktawk wrote:Don’t sleep on eskridge . He’s slowly gaining steam . He had 37 yards on 3 of 4 targets and had a big PI call too a week ago . Like a few other guys such as Colby Parkinson . Just don’t put Dee at Tailback or Dee Jay at quarterback . But don’t sleep on Eskridge making any plays. Not likely he ever justifies where he was taken but he’s one of the fastest guys on a really fast team .

I didn't say anything about Eskridge. I was simply lamenting about what our offensive line might have looked like had Pete gained respect for the OL a year earlier than he did.

I was really impressed with Dallas in the preseason and would like to see him get a little more work. He's been our third down back as he's a better blocker than Walker or than Penny was, but I'd like to see us give him a couple of series and limit Walker's exposure. He does a good job on special teams, too.

Cross was consistently ranked amongst the top 3-4 tackles, so it was a conventional wisdom sort of selection. Cbob had him with our first selection in his 3 deep draft. Lucas was the sleeper that turned out to be a gem.

Lucas has been better than Cross who seems to need more strength. He’s got good feet, but needs to work on holding up against
the bull rush. He’s quite young, though so maybe in this next off season he’ll add that quality.

I’ve been really impressed with how prepared they have been. That takes coaching considering they don’t have a veteran to mentor them.

We could well have the best rookie in the league at 3 different positions, and in the case of our tackles; 2 of the top 3 rookies at the position.

If John don't finally get GM or league exec or whatever the award is of the year this year it'll be a crime. If not for this draft class alone, for it and making the deal that made it possible.

c_hawkbob wrote:We could well have the best rookie in the league at 3 different positions, and in the case of our tackles; 2 of the top 3 rookies at the position.

If John don't finally get GM or league exec or whatever the award is of the year this year it'll be a crime. If not for this draft class alone, for it and making the deal that made it possible.

The award handout announcement would be awesome, "For fleecing the Broncos and turning the draft capital into high performing the Broncos, one of the worst fleecing of another organization in league history, I award GM John Schneider Executive of the Year. Truly the most lop-sided trade in NFL history. Or at least a rival to Jimmy Johnson's Herschel Walker trade."

c_hawkbob wrote:We could well have the best rookie in the league at 3 different positions, and in the case of our tackles; 2 of the top 3 rookies at the position.

If John don't finally get GM or league exec or whatever the award is of the year this year it'll be a crime. If not for this draft class alone, for it and making the deal that made it possible.

It was a marked departure from their past drafts. No player for draft pick trades. No trading down on draft day. Was that a coincidence, or did they have some sort of Come to Jesus moment that caused them to reassess their ways?

c_hawkbob wrote:We could well have the best rookie in the league at 3 different positions, and in the case of our tackles; 2 of the top 3 rookies at the position.

If John don't finally get GM or league exec or whatever the award is of the year this year it'll be a crime. If not for this draft class alone, for it and making the deal that made it possible.

It was a marked departure from their past drafts. No player for draft pick trades. No trading down on draft day. Was that a coincidence, or did they have some sort of Come to Jesus moment that caused them to reassess their ways?[/quote]

They had the capital and the players were there. We can choose to relitigate the years of tough drafts where the team still overperformed said lack of talent most years. Or we can look at 2 men who have apparently hit lightning in a bottle even more so than 2012. It is being called a "historic" draft.
In 10 years John and Pete have flipped the roster and laid the groundwork for a reload that hardly skips a beat. The 2 Tackles who have used their freakish natural gifts that are not coachable coupled with being very coachable are a huge foundation. 3 defensive studs including a HOF type corner , a HOF type RB assuming health.
They dont need to come to Jesus or anyone else. Their detractors do. They have spent 10 years leaving no stone unturned based on what was available and they hit and missed some LIKE EVERYONE but BFD. Far better coach and GM than we as fans not to respect that they are and they've hit it out of the park again. Wilson sequel.

And when it comes to the line I think a little bit more credit should be paid to Pete and John, primarily Pete for saying lets replace a beloved icon with Geno Freakin Smith. Even after an arrest.
Among the league best record setting accuracy, generally great decision making and timely scrambles(up to #8 rushing among QBs) there's another way Geno has really helped the entire offense. He gets his play ready early in the count so he has plenty of time over center before having to snap the ball. Gets to the line, Surveys his protection, makes line calls, and audibles if the defense calls for it. I've never seen another Seahawks QB seemingly as in control at the line pre snap, barking out orders in a clear voice. I think hes at half a dozen or so audibles to TDs, mainly runs but a couple of passes too. My 27 year old son who loved Russ, thought he wasn't slipping, hated the thought of Geno at QB, had zero faith in him was the one who started the discussion so its not just old crazy gloating Geno fan boy making the observation.
Hes a cool cat in the fight. Dude owns the huddle and line of scrimmage and Its got to help

They finally went back to drafting talent instead of trying to cherry pick talent in the mistaken belief that they were "just a player or two away from a championship run".
We saw how poorly they did for about 8 years doing that so it's good they went back to basics.
However, it wouldn't be surprising if they started cherry picking again in the mistaken belief that they are smarter than everyone else and can find players late in the draft others passed over.
Executive of the year? That will probably go to Howie Rosenberg from the Eagles with how he's managed his team in accumulating talent and lots of picks.

NorthHawk wrote:They finally went back to drafting talent instead of trying to cherry pick talent in the mistaken belief that they were "just a player or two away from a championship run".
We saw how poorly they did for about 8 years doing that so it's good they went back to basics.
However, it wouldn't be surprising if they started cherry picking again in the mistaken belief that they are smarter than everyone else and can find players late in the draft others passed over.
Executive of the year? That will probably go to Howie Rosenberg from the Eagles with how he's managed his team in accumulating talent and lots of picks.

I've argued this many times and there have been several analyze their drafts (including my own) and on the for teams that draft in the bottom third all the time, their drafting stacks up well.

The last 2 drafts were better, but there was a stretch of years that produced almost no impactful players.
During this period we bypassed major talent in favor of trading down for players that didn’t fit. I think there was a period of at least 3 years where very few of the draft picks were signed to a 2nd contract. I think it was something like 2 players over 3 or 4 years. You simply can’t maintain a dominant team without replenishing the talent.

NorthHawk wrote:The last 2 drafts were better, but there was a stretch of years that produced almost no impactful players.
During this period we bypassed major talent in favor of trading down for players that didn’t fit. I think there was a period of at least 3 years where very few of the draft picks were signed to a 2nd contract. I think it was something like 2 players over 3 or 4 years. You simply can’t maintain a dominant team without replenishing the talent.

Plus we still have never picked up the 5th year option on any of our first round draft choices since they added that feature to the CBA back in 2011. You can rationalize one or two of those decisions and there were a couple of years that we didn't have a first round pick, but nevertheless, it speaks to our poor drafting, at least in the first round with a list that includes James Carpenter, Bruce Irvin, Germain Ifedi, Rashaad Penny, and LJ Collier. You can rationalize some of those decisions, like Penny's, but not all of them.

Oh well. I guess a blind squirrel has found an acorn twice . Pretty good for a couple of dunces that can’t evaluate talent . Let’s focus on the negative from an incredibly positive tenure from our great coach and gm .