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The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 2:57 pm
by Aseahawkfan
The Russ Bowl is over. Now we got the 49ers in Frisco. Their starting RB is out. Trey Lance looks like he's a barely serviceable QB. Geno can match Trey Lance. Our RBs can match Frisco's.

Frisco D-line can be pretty vicious. Bosa is no joke.

Kyle Shanahan isn't Nathaniel Hackett. He knows us. He will have his team prepared.

But all in all, a very winnable game against a division opponent we know well with an unproven QB. I think we can take them.

Seattle 23-Frisco 17.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:13 pm
by Hawktawk
Carroll matches up well with Shanahan as the record shows . We swept them with Jimmy G . I’m sure they will try to run to hide Lance and that’s an area of concern . With an athlete like Lance you have to expect anything but we just had a hell of a tune up vs an all time great scrambling qb. Surprisingly we threw more on first down then ran last week . And if the qb is completing 80+ % why not ? We only ran the ball 13 times . But Penny was a step here or there from 150 yards and a couple house calls . He lost 2 big ones on penalties . As has been mentioned Dallas and Homer look good . Our line is better then last year already starting 2 rooks and a new center . I expect we run more due to that front 7 to keep them honest . But Pete has shown he trusts Geno with the ball so who knows . Maybe an out and up to DK on first offensive play off play action .

Who knows . I predicted a fairly convincing win we didn’t get but it’s because we shot our selves in the foot as much as Denver .
I’ll say Hawks 23-9ers 9.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 3:17 pm
by RiverDog
I just wrote about this subject in another thread.

The Niners have a better defense than the Broncos. When healthy, Nick Bosa is one of the best edge rushers in the league, the only one better being TJ Watt. This will be Cross's first real challenge. Our OL held up well vs. Denver, except when it really counted, ie 5 minutes to go in the game.

Trey Lance has been nothing short of a disaster. However, last week's game vs the Bears was played in some of the worst field conditions that I've seen in several years. We'll see how he performs on a fast turf. The Niners have a good running game and with their defense, Lance doesn't have to put up big numbers for them to win, all he has to do is keep from turning the ball over. We gave up over 400 yards to Denver. They ran the ball at will, over 5 yards a pop, continuing a trend we saw in preseason. Russell had just one reception over 30 yards, meaning that there's a lot of open receivers at short range. I expect the Niners to pound the rock and throw the ball short to Debo.

I'm going with 20-10 Niners.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 5:13 pm
by Hawktawk
Nice thing about facing tough defenders on the edge with this team is A, our line is way better . We faced this supposedly great defense that now wasn’t because we won but Geno took 2 sacks , both on him although he escaped a couple including the first TD . Second thing is Geno is fearless under a withering rush if you look at his Pittsburgh start last year . I caught all kinds of crap suggesting he played well completing 72% of his passes to 10 receivers with a TD , 2 minute drive at the end 102 qbr with Watt sacking him 5 times , laying him out 3 more , tipping or influencing 3 balls . Geno was sacked 13 times last year , 1 per quarter and still compiled solid starter numbers . As long as he’s back there I don’t care how tough Bosa is . He’s no better then Watt . Plus Cross might be pissed about his second half and rag doll Bosa . No worries

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 9:35 pm
by obiken
The line is 9ers by 10. I really dont know, it depends on how bad or good Lance plays.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 10:58 pm
by trents
It's a game between two teams with some glaring weaknesses. Ours' being defense between the 20's and theirs' being the QB. The only thing I will predict is a low scoring, close game.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Wed Sep 14, 2022 11:30 pm
by I-5
One thing we can be sure of...ALL the pressure is on SF and Trey Lance to win and win big after that sloppy loss in Chicago. Seahawks are still being crapped on in Vegas and everywhere else. Even if we win Sunday, I think it's going to stay that way...but I'm hearing a lot less Geno Smith jokes.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:37 am
by RiverDog
I-5 wrote:One thing we can be sure of...ALL the pressure is on SF and Trey Lance to win and win big after that sloppy loss in Chicago. Seahawks are still being crapped on in Vegas and everywhere else. Even if we win Sunday, I think it's going to stay that way...but I'm hearing a lot less Geno Smith jokes.


Absolutely true. Shanny has painted himself into a corner in hitching his wagon to Lance. They were one of the favorites in the NFC and to start out 0-2, losing to two teams not expected to compete for the playoffs, one being a divisional foe, would bring on a true crisis. If any Week 2 game can be called a must win, this one is it.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:07 am
by govandals
I'm worried Shanahan will scheme up lots of creative run plays to stretch our porous run D. Obviously, Mitchell is out and Mostert is in Miami (?) now, but Jeff Wilson is no slouch. Deebo and Aiyuk will get backfield touch's as well. We will see how our rookie tackles hold up against their DE's, Bosa is a monster. Geno being sacked 5 times is not unrealistic. Niners secondary is just OK, IF Geno has the time in the pocket, I can see a few downfield shots to DK and Tyler, something we didn't see last week. After an emotional win and the short week, I would not be surprised to see us come out flat. Excited to see Kenneth Walker!

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:14 am
by govandals
Hawktawk wrote: Plus Cross might be pissed about his second half and rag doll Bosa . No worries


Love your optimism, but, no, Cross will not ragdoll Bosa.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:33 am
by Hawktawk
Hawktawk wrote: Plus Cross might be pissed about his second half and rag doll Bosa . No worries


Love your optimism, but, no, Cross will not ragdoll Bosa.[/quote]

Let’s see . How many 6’7” phenomenal long armed rookies that run a sub 4.9 has that washed up old man Bosa faced ? Chubb etc was a good warm up. He might give up 2 to Bosa . Where was Bosa when Justin Fields was out there winning the game ? Isn’t bad weather defense weather ?
If the 9ers couldn’t stop Fields on a bad field good luck with Geno Smith and our offensive war chest on a fast track . Especially with a suspect secondary . Geno looked at every option last game , deep wasn’t there so he stayed underneath . He can throw deep . People are so wound up about Denver’s almost comeback they forget how many first game mistakes we made . I have it at 3 potential picks . Numerous missed tackles . Fail on a 4th and inches sneak playing Geno like a starter and going off guard instead of letting him just jump the pile like Jacksonville last year . Lose 2 big penny runs to penalty and a nice Geno scramble too . And still won as a 6.5 home dog.
The ceiling for this young fast team is unlimited .

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 5:43 am
by RiverDog
Hawktawk, you crack me up! Cross throwing Bosa around like a rag doll, no problem? :lol:

But you only get one laughing head. I don't want to get ObS riled up.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:36 am
by Hawktawk
RiverDog wrote:Hawktawk, you crack me up! Cross throwing Bosa around like a rag doll, no problem? :lol:

But you only get one laughing head. I don't want to get ObS riled up.


How would Bosa have done vs Wj? And not saying Cross is ever gonna be him but the man was damn solid in his first NFL start . He may well shut him down . I see a good battle but nothing like 5 sacks .

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 6:50 am
by NorthHawk
Cross is listed as only 6'5, not 6'7.

This is an interesting matchup. We have a good record against SF, and some teams no matter how good play either worse or better against certain opponents regardless of talent or record.
We happen to have success against SF for some reason.

Like has been said above, SF has a lot of pressure on them this weekend and Lance especially so as he didn't show well.
We won't be surprising anyone with our Defense and it showed some real weaknesses in the run game and inexperience in the pass defense. I expect Shanahan to take advantage of what
he sees on film and expect some new wrinkles as well. On Defense I expect them to be quite aggressive and focus on making Geno 1 dimensional. Denver stopped us cold the 2nd half on
Monday night and that should bring some lessons for a very good Defense we will face.

If they come out strong and punch us in the face early, I don't know how this team will react. Some younger teams will be stunned by it and not react and others find that it's a team building
experience. If it happens it will be interesting to see the response. Since Denver was successful running outside the tackles it would seem obvious that SF will do the same with both run
plays and sweeps. Their RBs might not be as good as Williams and Gordon but Shanahan is a master at using plays to attack weaknesses. Watch out for Deebo.

SF has something to prove this game and their focus for their home opener should be pretty good, but who knows how Lance will react? He's the wild card in this game and at the same time
we are coming off an emotional win at home. Will we respond at the same level? I doubt it without the crowd on our side and I suspect SF won't have penalties that continue drives that
would otherwise have led to punts. If SF gets into a 3 1st and goal situations, I would expect they come away with more than 3 points.
I think we will be lucky to score 17 points this game, but can Lance engineer enough for the win? If not, expect a huge QB controversy in SF.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:02 am
by govandals
Hawktawk wrote:
Let’s see . How many 6’7” phenomenal long armed rookies that run a sub 4.9 has that washed up old man Bosa faced ?


You cannot be serious.
Washed up Nick Bosa who had 15.5 sacks last year?
Old man Nick Bosa who is 24 years old?

And quit bringing up 40 yd dash times, it's one of the least effective metrics to measure OL success.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:30 am
by Hawktawk
govandals wrote:
You cannot be serious.
Washed up Nick Bosa who had 15.5 sacks last year?
Old man Nick Bosa who is 24 years old?

And quit bringing up 40 yd dash times, it's one of the least effective metrics to measure OL success.



The bosa stuff was 100% a joke man . I’m well aware of Joey Bosa. But as I say Geno saw Watt on the road his first start in 5 years and absolutely got his ass kicked by Watt to the tune of 5 sacks , 3 knockdowns , 3 batted balls and a tomahawk chop that should have been a fumble but wound up an incompletion , still 72% completion rate , completions to 10 receivers , 4 scoring drives last 5 possessions to get to overtime where Watt finally got him. But not till he had driven a few yards from field goal range . No Penny either and a Hall of Fame qb on the other team . Nobody but me was impressed . Maybe start paying attention. It makes more sense now .

I have a body of work , very small but something to judge “ only “ 6’5” cross by and it’s looking pretty good . And if your a good to great tackle it’s even better if your faster . Faster is always better regardless of talent level .

I see Penny at 125 and a touch . Geno 235 2 touches one to DK . Meyers 1-2 fg .

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 7:51 am
by RiverDog
Hawktawk wrote:
Let’s see . How many 6’7” phenomenal long armed rookies that run a sub 4.9 has that washed up old man Bosa faced ?


govandals wrote:You cannot be serious.
Washed up Nick Bosa who had 15.5 sacks last year?
Old man Nick Bosa who is 24 years old?

And quit bringing up 40 yd dash times, it's one of the least effective metrics to measure OL success.


Wow, HT, you've really gone over the top. First, you overstate Cross's height by 2", misstate his 40 time by saying sub 4.9 (it was 4.95), and now you're calling a 24 year old Nick Bosa a washed-up old man? Tell me what you're drinking so I can order me a case.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:07 am
by c_hawkbob
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Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:11 am
by RiverDog
c_hawkbob wrote:Kool Aid man it's Kool Aid, electric lime green Kool Aid.


Now that deserves two laughing heads! :lol: :lol:

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 8:15 am
by c_hawkbob
I'm kidding HT, don't get offended ;)

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 9:14 am
by Aseahawkfan
Nick Bosa is a vicious beast. No one rag dolls that dude.

Abe Lucas is a big strong dude. He is 6'6" and looks to be real strong and mean. Maybe Pancake will surprise Bosa some if they go head to head.

Maybe Pete has Kyle Shanahan's number like Jeff Fisher used to have Pete's. Every year Fisher would put up some tough fight against us regardless of how good we were just because. It was annoying.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 9:35 am
by Hawktawk
Aseahawkfan wrote:Nick Bosa is a vicious beast. No one rag dolls that dude.

Abe Lucas is a big strong dude. He is 6'6" and looks to be real strong and mean. Maybe Pancake will surprise Bosa some if they go head to head.

Maybe Pete has Kyle Shanahan's number like Jeff Fisher used to have Pete's. Every year Fisher would put up some tough fight against us regardless of how good we were just because. It was annoying.

When the 9ers resigned JG it tells me they don’t completely believe in Lance . Also they don’t think the team was strong enough to beat another NFC west team if they cut Garropolo , perhaps even Seattle . They took a bad loss and throw out the weather everyone played in . They rushed for 175 and lost . That’s qb . They are a mess and Vegas is laughable having them up 10 but bring it on . I read an analysis calling Geno and Seattle frauds “ he’s not going to be able to complete 80% and sustain that “ well it’s his second regular season game in a row he’s done it . He’s still the main doubt in pundits minds.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 10:46 am
by RiverDog
Aseahawkfan wrote:Nick Bosa is a vicious beast. No one rag dolls that dude.

Abe Lucas is a big strong dude. He is 6'6" and looks to be real strong and mean. Maybe Pancake will surprise Bosa some if they go head to head.

Maybe Pete has Kyle Shanahan's number like Jeff Fisher used to have Pete's. Every year Fisher would put up some tough fight against us regardless of how good we were just because. It was annoying.


Hawktawk wrote:When the 9ers resigned JG it tells me they don’t completely believe in Lance . Also they don’t think the team was strong enough to beat another NFC west team if they cut Garropolo , perhaps even Seattle . They took a bad loss and throw out the weather everyone played in . They rushed for 175 and lost . That’s qb . They are a mess and Vegas is laughable having them up 10 but bring it on . I read an analysis calling Geno and Seattle frauds “ he’s not going to be able to complete 80% and sustain that “ well it’s his second regular season game in a row he’s done it . He’s still the main doubt in pundits minds.


I don't see it that way, at all. The Niners had two choices: Cut him, in which case he could have ended up with us, which would have been a nightmare for them, or resign him to a more team friendly ($7M) contract, about the same as what the Panthers are paying Sam Darnold as a backup, that provides them with a very good insurance policy, plus they can still trade him to some team, such as the Cowboys, that have a sudden, unexpected need at QB.

It might turn out to be misplaced, but the Niners have a ton of confidence in Trey Lance or else they wouldn't have taken such a big hit to get rid of Garoppolo, who wasn't a dog of a QB as he's taken them to two NFCCG's in 3 seasons, just not good enough to get them over the hump.

Having said that, there's an enormous amount of pressure on Lance and the Niners. If they start out the season 0-2 by losing to two teams judged to be far inferior, the natives are going to be out for blood.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 11:30 am
by Hawktawk
Lance was reportedly "a bit miffed" about this signing after the coach told him it was his team. Hes got a guy whose been to a superbowl looking over his shoulder.Its not good and it showed up in a loss to a dreadful team. Frankly Im glad hes starting over JG. I dont think the guy is a world beater but hes better than Lance.

Pete has a nice record against run around QBs, Kap, Kyler Murray got held to 16 points last year on an 11-5 team, exposed, crushed.I know it was 38-30 But our lord and savior was responsible for 14 of those.

I love our chances here.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:23 pm
by RiverDog
Hawktawk wrote:Lance was reportedly "a bit miffed" about this signing after the coach told him it was his team. Hes got a guy whose been to a superbowl looking over his shoulder.Its not good and it showed up in a loss to a dreadful team. Frankly Im glad hes starting over JG. I dont think the guy is a world beater but hes better than Lance.


You can believe what you want, but there's no logic in 'being miffed' at your team when they resign a player that was set to make $24M to a contract that's going to pay him less than a third of that amount.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 12:49 pm
by Hawktawk
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Hawktawk wrote:Lance was reportedly "a bit miffed" about this signing after the coach told him it was his team. Hes got a guy whose been to a superbowl looking over his shoulder.Its not good and it showed up in a loss to a dreadful team. Frankly Im glad hes starting over JG. I dont think the guy is a world beater but hes better than Lance.


“ You can believe what you want, but there's no logic in 'being miffed' at your team when they resign a player that was set to make $24M to a contract that's going to pay him less than a third of that amount.[/quote]


The money doesn’t matter . Gawd you like to argue .

It’s common sense he’s not happy about a guy like that looking over his shoulder. Like PC said when asked if he would pick Wilson over a guy making 20 million dollars “ he doesn’t have his checkbook on the field “ an all time line btw .

It’s delusional to think Trey Lance will have as long a rope as he would without a veteran super bowl participation NFC championship game one short year ago on the team . If he plays bad he’s going to the bench pronto . Early results aren’t promising .

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 3:24 pm
by RiverDog
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Hawktawk wrote:Lance was reportedly "a bit miffed" about this signing after the coach told him it was his team. Hes got a guy whose been to a superbowl looking over his shoulder.Its not good and it showed up in a loss to a dreadful team. Frankly Im glad hes starting over JG. I dont think the guy is a world beater but hes better than Lance.


“ You can believe what you want, but there's no logic in 'being miffed' at your team when they resign a player that was set to make $24M to a contract that's going to pay him less than a third of that amount.[/quote]


Hawktawk wrote:The money doesn’t matter . Gawd you like to argue .

It’s common sense he’s not happy about a guy like that looking over his shoulder. Like PC said when asked if he would pick Wilson over a guy making 20 million dollars “ he doesn’t have his checkbook on the field “ an all time line btw .

It’s delusional to think Trey Lance will have as long a rope as he would without a veteran super bowl participation NFC championship game one short year ago on the team . If he plays bad he’s going to the bench pronto . Early results aren’t promising .


Sorry. Money matters. I'll never forget Kenny Easley saying that he wanted to be paid $1 more than Ronnie Lott. It's an ego thing.

And as far as having to look over his shoulder, there's not many players in the league that don't have to worry about that. I'm not saying that he isn't miffed as neither you nor I know if that's the case. But if he is miffed, he'd better get used to it, as unless he wins an MVP, he's going to have to be looking over his shoulder his entire career just like 99% of the other players in the league.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:01 pm
by Hawktawk
It’s reported he was miffed . Just like it was reported the 9ers didn’t want Jimmy with a division rival . I heard a report that rams were also considering him due to questions with Staffords elbow . That would make more sense then worrying about the dog turd sea pigs with him

Geno is playing better right now then Garrapolo did last year anyway with his 20 TDs and 12 picks .

In his last 17 quarters of regular season ball he has 900 yards , 7 TD passes , a rush TD , probably around 100 rushing , 110 qbr . 1 pick 17 quarters ago when Lockett got tripped . 1 fumble . Now a 2-2 record with Seattle too . It’s going 3-2 .

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 4:22 pm
by RiverDog
Hawktawk wrote:It’s reported he was miffed . Just like it was reported the 9ers didn’t want Jimmy with a division rival . I heard a report that rams were also considering him due to questions with Staffords elbow . That would make more sense then worrying about the dog turd sea pigs with him,


What would make more sense would be the Cowboys, who just lost Dak Prescott for multiple weeks. There's 6 weeks between this weekend and the trading deadline, and a lot could happen.

Point is that one of the major motivations for the Niners re-signing Garoppolo rather than cutting him is so they can control where he goes.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Thu Sep 15, 2022 9:32 pm
by Hawktawk
I get that. With the boys not putting Dak on the Ir it doesn’t seem to make sense unless they are questioning their commitment to Dak . He’s been the shrinking man since his rookie season after all… I think it was a combination of not facing him in division and wanting a backup plan if Lance ain’t all that .
Prove me wrong

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 3:27 am
by RiverDog
Hawktawk wrote:I get that. With the boys not putting Dak on the Ir it doesn’t seem to make sense unless they are questioning their commitment to Dak . He’s been the shrinking man since his rookie season after all… I think it was a combination of not facing him in division and wanting a backup plan if Lance ain’t all that .
Prove me wrong


Of course, part of the motivation for re-signing Jimmy G. is an insurance policy for injury, suspension, or non-performance by the starter. Lance has to realize that. It's not a vote of no confidence, it's simply smart football management.

I'm hearing that the Cowboys might take a peak at Cam Newton, which to me, would be absurd. If he couldn't learn the playbook after a year with the Patriots, I don't know why they'd bring him in and expect him to get up to speed in a week or two. But with Jerry Jones calling the shots, you never know. Andy Dalton is available, and he played for them a couple of years ago, so they might bring him in.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:36 am
by Hawktawk
Yeah here come the retreads . I’d take Dalton over Cam any day . I’d take Geno over either at this point . It’s a thread into itself what happens to a lot of these guys . Like an old rotted out house in the country . Flacco is another one starting this week .

I’ll always wonder how many guys who never got noticed or were discarded early on might have been better then guys who did win the jobs . There can’t be only 32 people on the planet capable of the job . And being a high first round draft pick guarantees nothing but high expectations and salary comittments . We will see one of those guys Sunday . I like our chances .

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 5:48 am
by RiverDog
Hawktawk wrote:Yeah here come the retreads . I’d take Dalton over Cam any day . I’d take Geno over either at this point . It’s a thread into itself what happens to a lot of these guys . Like an old rotted out house in the country . Flacco is another one starting this week .

I’ll always wonder how many guys who never got noticed or were discarded early on might have been better then guys who did win the jobs . There can’t be only 32 people on the planet capable of the job . And being a high first round draft pick guarantees nothing but high expectations and salary comittments . We will see one of those guys Sunday . I like our chances .


Cam's done. He screwed the pooch in New England. A damn rookie knew the playbook better than he did. Anyone that brings Cam in under any circumstances needs to be committed to an insane asylum. But Jerry Jones is just the type of GM/owner that would look at that shiny lure and take the bait.

Sometimes, it's just pure luck that determines a career path. If Drew Bledsoe hadn't gotten hurt, we may have never heard of Tom Brady. He was at the right place at the right time.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 6:15 am
by Hawktawk
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Hawktawk wrote:Yeah here come the retreads . I’d take Dalton over Cam any day . I’d take Geno over either at this point . It’s a thread into itself what happens to a lot of these guys . Like an old rotted out house in the country . Flacco is another one starting this week .

I’ll always wonder how many guys who never got noticed or were discarded early on might have been better then guys who did win the jobs . There can’t be only 32 people on the planet capable of the job . And being a high first round draft pick guarantees nothing but high expectations and salary comittments . We will see one of those guys Sunday . I like our chances .


Cam's done. He screwed the pooch in New England. A damn rookie knew the playbook better than he did. Anyone that brings Cam in under any circumstances needs to be committed to an insane asylum. But Jerry Jones is just the type of GM/owner that would look at that shiny lure and take the bait.

Sometimes, it's just pure luck that determines a career path. If Drew Bledsoe hadn't gotten hurt, we may have never heard of Tom Brady. He was at the right place at the right time.[/quote]


Also Brady had a coach who didnt give an F about the conventional wisdom you dont lose your job to injury although he was a complete Ahole to do that to Bledsoe. It worked out.

If Flynn hadn't been nursing a shoulder and big balls Pete not been coach Russ might have watched Flynn playing with the LOB. MOF pick a name from the qb class of 2012 and pair them with the LOB. That would be fascinating .
If Dilfer didn't tear his Achilles vs Dallas Hass might never have started again. If Chuck Knox wasn't a coach who didn't give a flying F about fan favorites Mud bone may never have started and I still have old timers argue with me it was the wrong decision to bench and cut zorn.
If your aunt had balls she would be your uncle right ? heard that somewhere :D

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:05 am
by RiverDog
Not exactly a ringing endorsement for Trey Lance from former Rams coach Mike Martz:

“I want their eyeballs,” Martz said of the 49ers. “I’ve never seen anything about this kid (Lance) that was encouraging at all. He really has to plant himself to make a good throw. He’s not a quick decision guy. [Everything] about him being a mobile guy and making plays with his feet, he looked like a fullback stumbling around trying to run the ball to me. He’s not Lamar. I don’t know what he is. He’s not particularly good guy running with the football.

“Based on what I saw today he missed two guys completely by themselves. I know it was in the rain but quarterbacks do that, you make those throws. I know this, he can only go up, he can only get better, because you can’t get any worse that what he did [Sunday]. I’ve never liked him, I still don’t like him, I’d like to know what he does so well. Because he’s not a great passer, doesn’t have great skills, takes him a long time to set himself and throw the football, misses easy throws and he’s not a particularly good runner. Other than that he’s a hell of a player.”


But Martz didn't limit his critical remarks to Lance. Here's what he had to say about Bears QB Justin Fields:

I’m just shocked at the Bears. They took this quarterback (Fields), they went up and spent a lot to get him, and he was less-than-remarkable would be the kindest thing you could say about it. I don’t know if I’ve ever seen such a bad performance by a quarterback in his opening performance of the season. He was just completely awful.

“He really deflated the football team with his performance. When you get a quarterback that can’t do anything at all, and defensively you shut them out for a half, you kind of lose hope. Right now they’re a team without hope.”


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Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:35 am
by jshawaii22
98% chance of rain at 1pm game time... 49er fans are known as "fair weather" and with last weeks Chi dump, it wouldn't surprise me to see a lot of empty seats, even with it being the first home game. I've been to Santa Clara 3x for Seahawk games and two of them it seemed we had more fans then they did.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 10:55 am
by Hawktawk
It’s why they play the games . I think Frisco is gonna see a more polished Seahawks team . I know Vegas has us 8.5 but I’m seeing some analysts quite wary , picking us to lose by only 3. I hope we stay underdogs . This team has a massive chip on its shoulder and enough talent to do something about it .

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 11:15 am
by RiverDog
jshawaii22 wrote:98% chance of rain at 1pm game time... 49er fans are known as "fair weather" and with last weeks Chi dump, it wouldn't surprise me to see a lot of empty seats, even with it being the first home game. I've been to Santa Clara 3x for Seahawk games and two of them it seemed we had more fans then they did.


Hard to tell about the empty seats. At the NFCCG in LA last season, there were more Niners fans than Rams fans.

My weather app shows about 50% chance of rain Sunday at 1pm. But even if it does rain, it's very unlikely that we'll see conditions even remotely similar to what the Niners and Bears played in last week.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 12:53 pm
by I-5
I don't know if anyone else has brought it up, but Pete seems to have some kind of psychological edge or mojo with Shanny...of course, most of it has been with Wilson as the QB, but part of the mojo is we know how to defend them, too. I see SF winning, but it will be a tight game that will come down to the final possession. There's no way Lance doesn't throw at least 1 pick. As for Geno, I appreciate his ability to take care of the ball, but I think they'll need to be a little more aggressive against SF.

Re: The 49er Game: how do we see it?

PostPosted: Fri Sep 16, 2022 1:07 pm
by Aseahawkfan
I-5 wrote:I don't know if anyone else has brought it up, but Pete seems to have some kind of psychological edge or mojo with Shanny...of course, most of it has been with Wilson as the QB, but part of the mojo is we know how to defend them, too. I see SF winning, but it will be a tight game that will come down to the final possession. There's no way Lance doesn't throw at least 1 pick. As for Geno, I appreciate his ability to take care of the ball, but I think they'll need to be a little more aggressive against SF.


My buddy was telling me Pete is 15-2 against Frisco the last 8 years. We have beat Frisco the last four times we faced them under Shanahan. So we got a great chance of winning this week.