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Mock Draft simulators

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 2:31 pm
by tarlhawk
I signed up for the cheaper 1 yr version of PFF (around thirty dollars) and it offers some excellent draft tools beside its basic coverage of NFL player grades. The NFL website also offers a Mock Draft simulator for 2022. Both are fun to use just to get a "feel" for who might be available at our various pick selections...and both offer the ability to "trade" picks...

I've messed with several Draft/Mock simulators and traded up with Detroit to land #2 pick overall (still drew an F grade for the trade...swapped R1 and R3 2022 picks and a reluctant R1 and R3 from 2023) to grab A. Hutchinson(A+) to give our d-line some "Bite". I used both of our R2 picks to grab QB D.Ridder (A) and QB K.Pickett (B-) for serious competition with Lock...I used our R4 to grab Domann (A) as CB and both R5's to grab T.Walletsko (OT)(A) and Z. White (RB)(B+) while using our R7 pick on another young center D. Kramer (A-). PFF gave me the player grades with an overall grade of A-. Free Agency/Draft has become fun again...

Re: Mock Draft simulators

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 5:35 pm
by RiverDog
tarlhawk wrote:I signed up for the cheaper 1 yr version of PFF (around thirty dollars) and it offers some excellent draft tools beside its basic coverage of NFL player grades. The NFL website also offers a Mock Draft simulator for 2022. Both are fun to use just to get a "feel" for who might be available at our various pick selections...and both offer the ability to "trade" picks...

I've messed with several Draft/Mock simulators and traded up with Detroit to land #2 pick overall (still drew an F grade for the trade...swapped R1 and R3 2022 picks and a reluctant R1 and R3 from 2023) to grab A. Hutchinson(A+) to give our d-line some "Bite". I used both of our R2 picks to grab QB D.Ridder (A) and QB K.Pickett (B-) for serious competition with Lock...I used our R4 to grab Domann (A) as CB and both R5's to grab T.Walletsko (OT)(A) and Z. White (RB)(B+) while using our R7 pick on another young center D. Kramer (A-). PFF gave me the player grades with an overall grade of A-. Free Agency/Draft has become fun again...


Interesting. Have you done this before? If it wasn't for the fact that the weather is starting to improve and I now have plenty of stuff to do outdoors, I might have wanted to give it a whirl.

Re: Mock Draft simulators

PostPosted: Sun Mar 20, 2022 6:48 pm
by NorthHawk
For me, the best free one is the PFN mock draft simulator.

https://www.profootballnetwork.com/mockdraft/

Re: Mock Draft simulators

PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:10 pm
by Old but Slow
The simulators can be fun, but they depend upon somebody's big board, which can have major flaws. Sometimes you can find a 4th round pick with 2 or 3 players available who might be considered 1st round players. Fanspeak has had one with a choice of big boards, but the last I checked they weren't on line. Too bad.

The PFN site works well, even if it is not particularly good with the choices.

Re: Mock Draft simulators

PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 7:14 am
by NorthHawk
Old but Slow wrote:The simulators can be fun, but they depend upon somebody's big board, which can have major flaws. Sometimes you can find a 4th round pick with 2 or 3 players available who might be considered 1st round players. Fanspeak has had one with a choice of big boards, but the last I checked they weren't on line. Too bad.

The PFN site works well, even if it is not particularly good with the choices.


Their boards are definitely a shortcoming and sometimes the trades that are offered on some sites are very strange but it isn't meant to be a definitive ranking or rating of players or who teams will select.
I suspect that the generated picks don't have the depth of evaluation for scheme fit and sometimes even real needs. I saw one last year near the end of the season and it had us needing a Safety when we
had Diggs and Adams starting. But they are fun to play around with and sometimes select or offer players you might not know much about.

Re: Mock Draft simulators

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:50 pm
by tarlhawk
I experimented with some trades using the PFF and PFN draft simulators :

PFN First : Traded #9 to Ravens for #14 and #45...traded #41 and #109 to Browns for #44 and # 78...traded #44 and #229 to Saints for #49 and #98... traded #98 and 2023 6th to Rams for #104 and #142...final trade #152 and 2023 7th to Cowboys for #155 and #193. Five trades total...

#14 Ikem Ekwonu OT NC State

#40 Tyler Linderbaum C Iowa

#45 Boye Mafe Edge Minnesota

#49 Arnold Ebiketie Edge Penn State

#72 Tariq Woolen CB UTSA

#78 Chad Muma LB Wyoming

#104 Kaleb Eleby QB W. Michigan

#142 Luke Fortner C Kentucky

#153 Cade Mays OG Tennessee

#155 Chris Paul OT Tulsa

#193 Hassan Haskins RB Michigan


PFF : Traded #9 and #72 to Vikings for #12, #46 and #156 (B-)...traded #40 and #229 to Colts for #42, #122 and #179. (A-) Two trades total...PFF gives graded trades/selections:

#12 Bernhard Raimann OT Michigan (B-)

#41 Nik Bonitto Edge Oklahoma (A-)

#42 Desmond Ridder QB Cinncinatti (A)

#46 Abraham Lucas OT Washington State (B-)

#109 Donovan West C Arizona State (A)

#122 Cordale Flott CB LSU (B)

#152 Noah Eliiss Def-I Idaho (B-)

#153 Jack Sanborn LB Wisconsin (B-)

#156 Kyren Williams RB Notre Dame (A-)

#179 Josh Johnson WR Tulsa (B+)

Re: Mock Draft simulators

PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2022 8:35 pm
by NorthHawk
They are fun to play with but you can get some wild variations of players that are
available when it’s your time to make the pick.
For me, some of the real value is exposing me to some players I don’t know much about.

Re: Mock Draft simulators

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:29 am
by govandals
tarlhawk wrote:I experimented with some trades using the PFF and PFN draft simulators :

PFN First : Traded #9 to Ravens for #14 and #45...traded #41 and #109 to Browns for #44 and # 78...


Those simulators are fun, I've done some myself, but the trades are unrealistic. No way Baltimore is giving you 14 and 45 for 9. According to the 2022 trade value chart, that's 200 points in favor of Seattle. The second trade is nearly 100 points differential.

Like I said, those are fun, but don't get sucked into those trades or else you'll be disappointed on draft day with the real trades JS actually makes.

Re: Mock Draft simulators

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 2:30 am
by govandals

Re: Mock Draft simulators

PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:41 am
by NorthHawk
I just did a mock draft on PFN and it reflects the general direction I would like to see the Seahawks go.
I've loaded up on Offense (mostly the OL) and will take a QB next year with 3 1st round picks. It didn't work out to get a stud RB early but Haskins looks like the real deal to take some of the load off
of Penny and be a hammer in the backfield.

#11 Evan Neal, OT, Alabama (trade down 2 spots)
#41 Quay Walker, LB, Georgia
#65 DeMarvin Leal, DT/DE Texas A&M
#70 Cameron Jurgens, OC, Nebraska
#109 Cole Strange OG/OC, Chattanooga
#152 Zach Thom, OT Wake Forest
#153 Hassan Haskins, RB, Michigan
#229 Logan Bruss, OT, Wisconsin

2023 Washington 1st round pick