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The Most Disliked Person in the NFL

PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2022 8:52 pm
by RiverDog
Roger Goodell? Nope. Jerry Jones? Not a chance.

According to a new study that analyzed over a million negative tweets, Aaron Rodgers is the most disliked person in the NFL, and it's not even close.

“For the last 3 months of the 2021 #NFL season @betonline_ag analyzed more than a million Tweets that had a negative connotation, and the most despised person associated with the league was the Packers Aaron Rodgers,” tweeted Lester A. Wiltfong Jr. of Windy City Gridiron.

Fans aren’t surprised at all.

Rodgers caused a ton of controversy with his comments about vaccines and the pandemic during the 2021-22 season. Besides that, he carried this negative attitude around with him for most of the year.

It’s no surprise he’s the most disliked person in the NFL right now.


https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/aa ... d=msedgntp

Re: The Most Disliked Person in the NFL

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 5:13 am
by Oly
I think this is mostly driven by the fact that he's been in the news more than the others recently. Once the dust settles, I wouldn't be surprised if both Goodell and Jones rise to the top (especially if you just rated them all individually) and if Suh (who I think is still a Buc) challenges Rogers. But I agree that Rogers is up there, and this is interesting as he tries to get out of GB. Given the strength of people's dislike for him, I wonder if any possible suitors are going to pass on him.

Re: The Most Disliked Person in the NFL

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:03 am
by NorthHawk
I think it's almost ALL because of his vaccination/immunized point of view. His comments drew people into the debate that probably
aren't real big football fans.
Besides the stats come from twitter which isn't known for its accuracy or even handed discussions.

Re: The Most Disliked Person in the NFL

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:16 am
by RiverDog
NorthHawk wrote:I think it's almost ALL because of his vaccination/immunized point of view. His comments drew people into the debate that probably
aren't real big football fans.
Besides the stats come from twitter which isn't known for its accuracy or even handed discussions.


The anti vax situation was definitely the big whopper, but there are other factors that have had a cumulative effect. He recently broke up with his fiancée after a one year engagement, which followed a highly publicized break up with Danica Patrick after they had been dating for a couple of years, so that may have influenced the opinions of some fans, particularly females. He's also been estranged from his brother, who has had some pretty nasty things to say about him. Plus there's no doubt that he's lost some admirers amongst the Cheeseheads due to his openly expressing his desire to play for another team. And there's a lot of fans that are turned off by his championship belt celebration, which can be interpreted as a selfish, look at me I'm the greatest move.

Bottom line is that he's about as popular as a bumble bee in a nudist colony.

Re: The Most Disliked Person in the NFL

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 8:20 am
by NorthHawk
I'm just not sure Twitter is an example of independent thought and rational discussion for the most part and that has a larger sway
in the statistics.
He is an ass, though so he will never be top of the list of most liked.

Re: The Most Disliked Person in the NFL

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 9:44 am
by RiverDog
NorthHawk wrote:I'm just not sure Twitter is an example of independent thought and rational discussion for the most part and that has a larger sway
in the statistics.

He is an ass, though so he will never be top of the list of most liked.


Agreed on both counts.

In some ways, I can admire Rodgers' personality. Contrary to our own quarterback, who is highly concerned about the image he projects, Rodgers doesn't give a rip what others think of him except as it relates to the marketability of his name. You can't call Rodgers a phony. That doesn't mean that I prefer him over others as IMO he's a first class horses' ass, just that there are certain parts of his personality that I can appreciate.

Re: The Most Disliked Person in the NFL

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 11:23 am
by NorthHawk
Yup. At least you know what he really thinks.

Re: The Most Disliked Person in the NFL

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 3:16 pm
by c_hawkbob
He's the flavor of the month most hated because he's a dick, about whom Charles Barkley said "he's that pretty girl that has to told she's pretty every day". He's at the top (bottom?) of the list now because of the anti-vax "I'm immunized" lie, but he'll always be in the conversation even when someone else takes the title.

Re: The Most Disliked Person in the NFL

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 4:08 pm
by RiverDog
The last player that I can think of that had as bad of an image as Rodgers has now is Colin Kaepernick.

Re: The Most Disliked Person in the NFL

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 6:33 pm
by Aseahawkfan
This kind of petty entertainment news is ridiculous. Who cares if Twitter doesn't like him.

Re: The Most Disliked Person in the NFL

PostPosted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 7:44 pm
by c_hawkbob
Aseahawkfan wrote:This kind of petty entertainment news is ridiculous. Who cares if Twitter doesn't like him.

Yet here you are wallowing in it too.

Re: The Most Disliked Person in the NFL

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 6:05 am
by RiverDog
Aseahawkfan wrote:This kind of petty entertainment news is ridiculous. Who cares if Twitter doesn't like him.


c_hawkbob wrote:Yet here you are wallowing in it too.


Agreed that it's a rather silly topic, but it's the offseason, we're not into the free agency period, and the draft is months away, so what else are we going to talk about that's football related?

Re: The Most Disliked Person in the NFL

PostPosted: Sat Mar 05, 2022 7:49 am
by NorthHawk
Apparently one of his options is the Steelers and he's seriously considering it.
If he does go somewhere else, it will be interesting to see the compensation going back to GB.

Re: The Most Disliked Person in the NFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:29 am
by obiken
NorthHawk wrote:Apparently one of his options is the Steelers and he's seriously considering it.
If he does go somewhere else, it will be interesting to see the compensation going back to GB.


Its all Drama Queen for him, I am getting more sick of him than I was of Farve. The biggest difference is I expected more out of Farve.

Re: The Most Disliked Person in the NFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 6:58 am
by tarlhawk
Aaron Rodgers would be forcing his way out to leave Green Bay with a year of his contract left which RW will be in same situation in 2023. Green Bay has no interest in trading him but is trapped in a hard position financially. If Rogers plays in Green Bay (without his contract being re-worked) he will be a 46.7 million dollar cap hit...if he leaves then he becomes a 26.9 million dead money hit against the Green Bay cap and leaving the team without its game-changing QB. Manipulating contracts to push the cap hit till the end of a contract has bad results if a player becomes dissatisfied with his team. Since many contracts are similar across the league for your premium players this Aaron Rodgers dilemma for the Green Bay GM will become more common.

Re: The Most Disliked Person in the NFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:19 am
by RiverDog
tarlhawk wrote:Aaron Rodgers would be forcing his way out to leave Green Bay with a year of his contract left which RW will be in same situation in 2023. Green Bay has no interest in trading him but is trapped in a hard position financially. If Rogers plays in Green Bay (without his contract being re-worked) he will be a 46.7 million dollar cap hit...if he leaves then he becomes a 26.9 million dead money hit against the Green Bay cap and leaving the team without its game-changing QB. Manipulating contracts to push the cap hit till the end of a contract has bad results if a player becomes dissatisfied with his team. Since many contracts are similar across the league for your premium players this Aaron Rodgers dilemma for the Green Bay GM will become more common.


Nice post. You can say that the chickens are coming home to roost.

Re: The Most Disliked Person in the NFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 7:59 am
by tarlhawk
For those not knowing what "dead money" means or its impact on a team's GM (responsible for our teams financial health) :

What is "dead money"

The NFL term "dead money" is when part of the salary cap that an NFL team has is going towards a player that no longer plays for the franchise. An example for our team would be Duane Brown...if allowed to "leave" he would still cost us 3.5 million dollars against the 2022 Salary Cap as a "dead money" cap hit.

Ahkello Witherspoon (remember him?) plays for the Steelers yet costs us 1.25 million against our 2022 Salary Cap. (He was traded last Sept for a 5th round draft pick in 2023).

Many people point out that the KC Chiefs invested in their O-Line to protect P. Mahomes...but if you look at the "dead money" ( if injured or dissatisfied) P. Mahomes represents 93 million in 2022 and 57 million in 2023. The O-line represents "forced" insurance to cover the financial risk of losing Mahomes before his current contract runs out.

What happens to dead money when a player is released?

If there is dead money in a player’s contract and he is released, that money will “accelerate” onto the current year’s cap. There is a way to split the dead money over two seasons. A contract that is terminated after June 1 will have the cap charge divided between this year’s and next year’s cap.

Re: The Most Disliked Person in the NFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:00 am
by NorthHawk
We might be in that same position soon with Wilson soon.

Re: The Most Disliked Person in the NFL

PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 8:07 am
by tarlhawk
NorthHawk wrote:We might be in that same position soon with Wilson soon.


True but not as disastrous..."losing" him in 2022 would be a 26 million dead money hit while that would drop to 13 million in 2023.

Re: The Most Disliked Person in the NFL

PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:11 am
by govandals
tarlhawk wrote:
True but not as disastrous..."losing" him in 2022 would be a 26 million dead money hit while that would drop to 13 million in 2023.


Yes, not disastrous at all.

RW's cap hit is 37 mil, and while his dead cap is 26 mil, that's an 11 mil savings. In 2023, cap hit is 40 mil so there is a 27 mil savings. 27 mil can buy some shiny toys or 4 backup lineman if your into that.

FWIW, dead cap for 2021 was 58 mil and cap hit was 32 mil. So, if he were traded to the Bears last offseason it would have cost us 26 mil, although I believe they could have spread that out over the remaining 3 years of RW's contract