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Arrested for public exposure, aggravated battery of an officer and resisting arrest. After a short stint as a starter, back to " "taxes is taxes".

TriCitySam wrote:Arrested for public exposure, aggravated battery of an officer and resisting arrest. After a short stint as a starter, back to " "taxes is taxes".

Yea, I saw that. Here's some more details, with the caveat that it's one side of the story:

A Broward County sheriff's deputy responded to a report of a naked man walking near a school in Deerfield Beach, according to the report. After McDowell looked up at the deputy and yelled an expletive, "the defendant then charged at me with at full speed (sic) with closed fist," the report said.

The officer said that due to proximity he was unable to avoid the attack or to use de-escalation tactics or a nonlethal weapon.

"The defendant intentionally rammed his body into me and began swinging closed fist punches at me," the officer said, according to the report. "The punches were swung with extreme aggression with at least one strike hitting me on my right eye/temple area of my eye."

The officer said he was dazed and felt extreme pain where he was struck, and that the NFL player continued the "violent attack" by landing strikes to the top of his head.

McDowell then fled and after a foot pursuit, a Taser was deployed. McDowell was handcuffed and taken into custody, according to the report.

In addition to the aggravated battery on a law enforcement officer and obstruction of justice with violence charges, McDowell is also charged with exposure "due to the defendant walking around the street naked exposing his sexual organs in view of the public -- to include a school that contained children."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/ma ... uxbndlbing

Sounds like drugs, wouldn't you say?

McDowell probably has brain damage.

Yes one side, but I saw the video and he will stark naked and walking around a school. Not sure there's a good defense for that. He had a significant head injury, perhaps that and meds had an effect. Regardless, you're a danger. He had 14 starts in Cleveland this year, thought he was getting it together. But this is his 2nd incident.

Just saw a report he walked into a children's learning center naked.

TriCitySam wrote:Yes one side, but I saw the video and he will stark naked and walking around a school. Not sure there's a good defense for that. He had a significant head injury, perhaps that and meds had an effect. Regardless, your a danger. He had 14 starts in Cleveland this year, thought he was getting it together. But this is his 2nd incident.

Just saw a report he walked into a children's learning center naked.

Definitely a total mental breakdown . One can debate the wisdom of a man who suffered such a severe head injury to be in the trenches knocking heads every play . It’s a man gone utterly insane and it’s sad no matter the person or their history . Count his career over and it will take a great lawyer for him to avoid serious prison time .

TriCitySam wrote:Yes one side, but I saw the video and he will stark naked and walking around a school. Not sure there's a good defense for that. He had a significant head injury, perhaps that and meds had an effect. Regardless, your a danger. He had 14 starts in Cleveland this year, thought he was getting it together. But this is his 2nd incident.

Just saw a report he walked into a children's learning center naked.

Oh, I wasn't trying to defend him or his actions, I was just adding a disclaimer by noting that we haven't heard from McDowell yet. You're exactly right, there's absolutely no excuse for this kind of behavior. Regardless of any possible mental issues or other possible explanations, he needs to be locked up to protect the public.

It's either mental issues or drug problems.
Normal people don't do that kind of thing.
I hope he gets it together so he can live a somewhat normal life if football isn't in his future.

RiverDog wrote:Yea, I saw that. Here's some more details, with the caveat that it's one side of the story:

A Broward County sheriff's deputy responded to a report of a naked man walking near a school in Deerfield Beach, according to the report. After McDowell looked up at the deputy and yelled an expletive, "the defendant then charged at me with at full speed (sic) with closed fist," the report said.

The officer said that due to proximity he was unable to avoid the attack or to use de-escalation tactics or a nonlethal weapon.

"The defendant intentionally rammed his body into me and began swinging closed fist punches at me," the officer said, according to the report. "The punches were swung with extreme aggression with at least one strike hitting me on my right eye/temple area of my eye."

The officer said he was dazed and felt extreme pain where he was struck, and that the NFL player continued the "violent attack" by landing strikes to the top of his head.

McDowell then fled and after a foot pursuit, a Taser was deployed. McDowell was handcuffed and taken into custody, according to the report.

In addition to the aggravated battery on a law enforcement officer and obstruction of justice with violence charges, McDowell is also charged with exposure "due to the defendant walking around the street naked exposing his sexual organs in view of the public -- to include a school that contained children."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/ma ... uxbndlbing

Sounds like drugs, wouldn't you say?

It sounds like he is lucky that he wasn't shot. I hope he gets the help he needs.

Hawktawk wrote:Definitely a total mental breakdown . One can debate the wisdom of a man who suffered such a severe head injury to be in the trenches knocking heads every play . It’s a man gone utterly insane and it’s sad no matter the person or their history . Count his career over and it will take a great lawyer for him to avoid serious prison time .

That's an excellent point regarding the head injury and playing, one I was thinking about last night. Common sense tells you that's a really bad idea. The Hawk's doctors looked at him twice and did not pass him to play, as did Dallas. I had a customer several years ago that had a head injury on a motor cycle, he has never been the same. Subject to sudden acts of verbal and physical violence, and was a really mild mannered guy before that. Maybe he belongs in a medical facility.

I hope Yoder doesn't ban me for posting obscene content.

I am trying to convince myself I did not see that pic. Some things can not be unseen.

UN BE LEAVE ABLE! I think Rivo is right, Drugs!

Man, McDowell has outdone Antonio Brown.

Old but Slow wrote:I am trying to convince myself I did not see that pic. Some things can not be unseen.

Well, at least we only saw his backside. I wonder if this behavior is considered a violation of the league's personal conduct policy?

This looks like straight up brain damage to me. He probably needs someone looking after him all the time.

Aseahawkfan wrote:This looks like straight up brain damage to me. He probably needs someone looking after him all the time.

I agree 100 % he had a bad enough head injury to be out of the league for years then 14 starts in the line . If it’s drugs you have to have brain damage to do dope that nasty .

Old but Slow wrote:
Well, at least we only saw his backside. I wonder if this behavior is considered a violation of the league's personal conduct policy?

Has a low center of gravity......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyumfsc5vwY

TriCitySam wrote:That's an excellent point regarding the head injury and playing, one I was thinking about last night. Common sense tells you that's a really bad idea. The Hawk's doctors looked at him twice and did not pass him to play, as did Dallas. I had a customer several years ago that had a head injury on a motor cycle, he has never been the same. Subject to sudden acts of verbal and physical violence, and was a really mild mannered guy before that. Maybe he belongs in a medical facility.

That's so tragic. It seems clear that McDowell is still suffering from that ATV accident.

More points that I think were missed in the discussion.

#1) Malik claims he has no recollection of the incident... Uh... OK...

#2) He's still on probation in Michigan, whom I'm sure will want to talk to him sooner rather then later.

#3) He was with friends about 1 hour before this. Left them to go to his hotel room and then this all happened, but everyone said he was fine and OK when he was with them.

Strange kaka.

jshawaii22 wrote:More points that I think were missed in the discussion.

#1) Malik claims he has no recollection of the incident... Uh... OK...

#2) He's still on probation in Michigan, whom I'm sure will want to talk to him sooner rather then later.

#3) He was with friends about 1 hour before this. Left them to go to his hotel room and then this all happened, but everyone said he was fine and OK when he was with them.

Strange kaka.

If those are all true than strange indeed. Obviously, depending on what you were doing right before you left, one could have consumed something that would totally cause them to be F-ed up in a few minutes. The only thing that could, maybe save him is if there were some sort of blood work that showed he was somehow drugged- which I doubt. Maybe somebody slipped him a Mickey.

Whatever it was he clearly was insane at the time to lose his career and freedom like that

jshawaii22 wrote:More points that I think were missed in the discussion.

#1) Malik claims he has no recollection of the incident... Uh... OK...

#2) He's still on probation in Michigan, whom I'm sure will want to talk to him sooner rather then later.

#3) He was with friends about 1 hour before this. Left them to go to his hotel room and then this all happened, but everyone said he was fine and OK when he was with them.

Strange kaka.

mykc14 wrote:If those are all true than strange indeed. Obviously, depending on what you were doing right before you left, one could have consumed something that would totally cause them to be F-ed up in a few minutes. The only thing that could, maybe save him is if there were some sort of blood work that showed he was somehow drugged- which I doubt. Maybe somebody slipped him a Mickey.

I'm no expert, but this sounds to me like PCP, or angel dust, which can cause severe hallucinations and some very bizarre behavior. If that's the case, it will show up in the toxicology report.

RiverDog wrote:I'm no expert, but this sounds to me like PCP, or angel dust, which can cause severe hallucinations and some very bizarre behavior. If that's the case, it will show up in the toxicology report.

Or severe brain damage that turns you into a lunatic.

There are a number of things from drugs to missing meds or even someone spiking something he was drinking.
Something is wrong and the spiking would be a surprise (why would someone do that?), though.

NorthHawk wrote:There are a number of things from drugs to missing meds or even someone spiking something he was drinking.
Something is wrong and the spiking would be a surprise (why would someone do that?), though.

Judging by McDowell's past problems, I doubt that there was a 2nd party involved in this latest incident:

McDowell has had several run-ins with law enforcement, including a September 2017 DUI and a December 2017 allegation of disorderly conduct. In February 2019, he was charged with operating a vehicle while intoxicated, resisting arrest, and assault. The league suspended him two games.

The police report indicates that McDowell remains on probation in Michigan, which will create a separate set of legal issues for McDowell.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... -a-deputy/

RiverDog wrote:
Judging by McDowell's past problems, I doubt that there was a 2nd party involved in this latest incident:

McDowell has had several run-ins with law enforcement, including a September 2017 DUI and a December 2017 allegation of disorderly conduct. In February 2019, he was charged with operating a vehicle while intoxicated, resisting arrest, and assault. The league suspended him two games.

The police report indicates that McDowell remains on probation in Michigan, which will create a separate set of legal issues for McDowell.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... -a-deputy/

Aren't all the run ins with the law following having his head smashed in an ATV accident ? Did the guy have a rap sheet when he was drafted? Whatever the cause this was a totally manic episode. None of the other charges really are anywhere near the level of this incident which is a man utterly insane in that moment.

I remember a few years back a KC linebacker killed his fiancée and then shot himself in the parking lot of arrowhead in front of the coaches. His family described him as the nicest guy in the world until a really bad concussion and he became a different person entirely. I hope McDowell gets the help he needs to manage whatever is wrong with him, it will likely happen in prison.

RiverDog wrote:
Judging by McDowell's past problems, I doubt that there was a 2nd party involved in this latest incident:

McDowell has had several run-ins with law enforcement, including a September 2017 DUI and a December 2017 allegation of disorderly conduct. In February 2019, he was charged with operating a vehicle while intoxicated, resisting arrest, and assault. The league suspended him two games.

The police report indicates that McDowell remains on probation in Michigan, which will create a separate set of legal issues for McDowell.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2 ... -a-deputy/

Hawktawk wrote:Aren't all the run ins with the law following having his head smashed in an ATV accident ? Did the guy have a rap sheet when he was drafted? Whatever the cause this was a totally manic episode. None of the other charges really are anywhere near the level of this incident which is a man utterly insane in that moment.

I remember a few years back a KC linebacker killed his fiancée and then shot himself in the parking lot of arrowhead in front of the coaches. His family described him as the nicest guy in the world until a really bad concussion and he became a different person entirely. I hope McDowell gets the help he needs to manage whatever is wrong with him, it will likely happen in prison.

McDowell was drafted in April of 2017, so yes, the incidents noted happened after his ATV injury, but my point was that the fact that he has a record that included assault and resisting arrest makes it less likely that he was the victim of some sort of prank.

I remember the incident you referred to, and you're absolutely right, that a head injury could go a long ways in explaining his bizarre behavior. But regardless of the cause, he's currently a danger to himself and others and needs to be isolated from the rest of society until he's deemed as no longer a threat.

Yes zero question the man needs incarcerated somewhere .