End of an era?

[Hawktawk]

Yeah probably. But it was a hell of a ride . PC acting like an old Jim Mora in 2010, bumbling along , saying dumb stuff, rah rah college guy . They backed into the playoffs as a 7-9 division winner.

Then came the game that shocked the world , the day the PC era started and beast mode was born . Still my only playoff game live . Yes I could feel the earthquake .
Then the Wilson era began . He elevated a back to back 7-9 team immediately . After surprisingly being named the starter he had a few hiccups and a divided fan base and locker room early but also some big moments , the golden Hail Mary vs the pack , the brilliant performance vs Dallas and then the you mad bro win over Brady with a deep strike to Rice in the final minutes . Et said after the game “ if they didn’t believe in him before they do now “. Indeed the rest is history . So many Houdini like escapes , amazing throws .

The perfect game with the perfect team in the biggest stage at the perfect moment.

Then climbing out of a 3-3 hole and down 16-0 late vs the Pack in the NFC championship to miraculously reach their second super bowl. Then an incredible last minute drive wasted , a yard short of a dynasty , immortality .

A dreadful call executed even worse . The rest I won’t belabor .

The greatness of this teams leaders is that they have soldiered on through that bitter disappointment and won as many more games as they did . But something died on the one there . They never made it past a divisional again despite only missing the playoffs once in that span . It could have been so much more….

But it was still great beyond my wildest dreams during the Flores era . Russ is down now and he was grumbling and his play is slipping in those games moments he used to own .Fans are impatient with a backup behind the same leaky line . Our future HOF coach is getting booed after delivering 10 playoff teams in 12 years and he truly looks and acts his age all of a sudden . It goes with the territory I suppose . What have you done for me lately . So is this how it ends ?

Hope springs eternal . Geno and co must beat the Jags and Russ must come back good Russ and they gotta win 9 of 10 imo . I don’t think it’s happening and I think the magic carpet ride is over . But I’ll raise a toast to Paul Allen , to Pete Carroll, John Schneider , to our little Houdini , our Superman Russ and all the guys , beast , ADB, The LOB , all the guys who won all those games and gave us so many enjoyable sundays . Thank you . GO HAWKS!!!!

[TriCitySam]

Agreed - it was FUN! I am one who feels Pete's style is still relevant - but they don't have the personnel to execute it. We've been unable to develop an OL, wiffed on too many higher picks - some on us, some were just injury prone and I don't know how you project that. After the mind numbing teams we had for so many years, this has been good. Still hoping, we have game left in us - although not this year.

[RiverDog]

I agree, too. I don't think we come close to winning 9 out of 10 after Russell returns, more like 5 out of 10. Russell wasn't the entire fault why we were losing so I don't see why his return would turn the season around unless something else changes.

I'm very appreciate of Pete for what he's done for this franchise. It is by far the best period of Seahawk football in the history of the franchise. But it's time for a factory reset. Hopefully the boys at Vulcan will take him aside and convince him to retire, perhaps give him a cushy job as a consultant. But get his meat hooks off this team and let some young buck like Kellen Moore have a shot at it.

[Hawktawk]

Kellen Moore. I like it. Not sure Jones is gonna let it happen though cause he’s thinking down the road .

[Hawktawk]

Pete has always had flaws strategically but his innovative practice methods and superior motivation techniques always overcame it in the end . And having players like Bush and Leinart at USC and all the studs we had here , Russ and Beast and all those defenders . Now the talent isn’t there although the team has looked far better on d. But motivation only get you so far . When you are so conservative you run 8 times in a row for 19 yards and 2 punts you may as well bring in your third string qb if that’s what your telling Geno . It was bizarre considering the only successful big play of the night was over the top . Then post game and Monday Pete was going on about how close they are to winning and not getting it done in front of the fans and it’s “shocking “. We’ve lost 7 of 11 with fans now and not sure about last year other than the debacle vs the Rams . It’s like he’s out of touch with reality . He forgets he was really close to losing games he’s now close to winning for years now.

[RiverDog]

Kellen Moore. I like it. Not sure Jones is gonna let it happen though cause he’s thinking down the road .

Moore is a local boy, grew up in a football crazy town and might jump at the chance to come home and coach his boyhood favorite team. He'll be the next hot commodity on the coaching market, might even be gone at the end of this season. He's a quarterback that has played at the NFL level and has done wonders for Dak Prescott, who has many of the same attributes that Russell has. IMO it would be a match made in heaven.

[Hawktawk]

I think he’s from
Prosser. I watched his amazing career at Boise state within an eyelash of a national championship opportunity . Actually a missed chip shot in a loss to one colon copper d@k which is the first I ever heard of that guy . Too slight a build for the nfl but still has a record breaking cowboys game on his record . Sky is the limit

[jshawaii22]

Wasn't he the only coach that Dallas kept when they turned to McCarthy. If 'Zona can bring a kid in to coach pros, why not us.
The problem the team has as a 'business' are the 2 contracts with JS and Pete just being signed last year. Do you see our very weak upper management making the decision to cut bait with a Super Bowl winning coach and GM? It would have to be Pete moving on or retiring... hey, I hear USC is looking for a head coach.

[RiverDog]

I think he’s from
Prosser. I watched his amazing career at Boise state within an eyelash of a national championship opportunity . Actually a missed chip shot in a loss to one colon copper d@k which is the first I ever heard of that guy . Too slight a build for the nfl but still has a record breaking cowboys game on his record . Sky is the limit

Moore IS from Prosser, a small town of about 5,000 20 miles west of the Tri Cities. They have had some very good high school football teams in years past, and Kellen's dad Tom was a legendary coach for them. He has a suburb coaching pedigree.

[RiverDog]

Wasn't he (Moore) the only coach that Dallas kept when they turned to McCarthy. If 'Zona can bring a kid in to coach pros, why not us.

The problem the team has as a 'business' are the 2 contracts with JS and Pete just being signed last year. Do you see our very weak upper management making the decision to cut bait with a Super Bowl winning coach and GM? It would have to be Pete moving on or retiring... hey, I hear USC is looking for a head coach.

Could be. Moore was OC when McCarthy was hired.

I don't have a clue how our upper management views Pete Carroll, but I agree that it's likely that they'd be reluctant to fire him outright, and I certainly hope that it doesn't come to that. The contracts that Pete and JS signed will not prevent them from firing them. They'd just have to buy them out or come to some sort of negotiated settlement. I don't think either side wants to see an outright firing.

Pete may not have lost the team, but he's losing the fans in droves. I bought tickets to the Jags game for $170/apiece back in July, nose bleed seats off the corner of the end zone. Today you can get tickets for under $40. Granted, it's the Jags and Russell Wilson isn't playing, but I haven't seen that much disinterest since before Paul Allen bought the team some 25 years ago. Even the Mora year had more fan interest at this point of the season. I'm certain that decline in fan interest isn't going unnoticed by the boys and girls at Vulcan.

[NorthHawk]

I think it will be Pete's choice alone. Whether he thinks he can stomach another year without a chance of a SB appearance and/or if Russ
demands a trade will be the deciding factors.

After the 2013 SB win, I was pointing out the problems with the OL and said I don't want to be sitting here 10 years later saying we should
have won more SB's, but here we are saying just that. I love that Pete gave us our 1st SB win and that was a team for the ages, but man
we should have had 3 or more if only things had worked out.
It will be a sad day when Pete does decide he's done and I'll have good memories of those winning years, but there were a few flaws that
never were fixed and both he and JS lost their way in building a team and keeping the roster stocked with young talent. And it's too bad.
There was so much more that could have been accomplished that never will be.

[Hawktawk]

Maybe if they had invested more in the line they would have felt better handing it off on the 1. That’s where this dynasty died . It just took awhile . It’s been all downhill ever since . We all wondered at the time . The swagger has never returned . Russ played different from then on . The locker room was always divided after that . As I’ve said it’s remarkable the team has had the success it had in the 6 seasons following .

[NorthHawk]

I said at the time and still maintain that Lynch made the OL look better than it was in those years.
I heard an announcer talking about a RB (can't remember which game or player) and he said that he's broken about 100 tackles the last 3 years.
Lynch in one year broke more than 100, that's how much he helped the OL stats and the nearest other player was in the 70 range.