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COVID

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 4:46 pm
by TriCitySam
I see Cooper Kupp (Davis HS Yakima) has been put on the COVID-19 Reserve list. We'll hope Rams didn't pass anything along.

Re: COVID

PostPosted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:23 pm
by RiverDog
TriCitySam wrote:I see Cooper Kupp (Davis HS Yakima) has been put on the COVID-19 Reserve list. We'll hope Rams didn't pass anything along.


Kupp is also an EWU alum. Gotta toss that in as that's my alma mater, too.

That would really suck if he spread COVID to our defense. My guess is that since the game was outdoors that the odds of passing the virus in that environment are pretty remote.

Re: COVID

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:09 am
by Hawktawk
I dunno. Physical contact. Guys getting snot blown out of their nose on hard hits, sweating . Im very worried, not just for our team but for our nation even more so. We are in deep doo doo.

Re: COVID

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:09 am
by TriCitySam
RiverDog wrote: Kupp is also an EWU alum. Gotta toss that in as that's my alma mater, too.

That would really suck if he spread COVID to our defense. My guess is that since the game was outdoors that the odds of passing the virus in that environment are pretty remote.


I have no idea the chances of passing the virus during a game, although you do get pretty close during a tackle :)

Re: COVID

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 11:46 am
by RiverDog
RiverDog wrote: Kupp is also an EWU alum. Gotta toss that in as that's my alma mater, too.

That would really suck if he spread COVID to our defense. My guess is that since the game was outdoors that the odds of passing the virus in that environment are pretty remote.


TriCitySam wrote:I have no idea the chances of passing the virus during a game, although you do get pretty close during a tackle :)


The CDC does rate rate football games between teams from different areas as being "highest risk", but I haven't heard of any transmission between teams or from referees. The NFL has some very extensive contract tracing measures, so you would think that we would have heard something over the course of the past 16 weeks.

The NFL continues to do a remarkable job dealing with the pandemic yet managing to complete the season with just a few postponements and rescheduling of games, especially when you consider that they haven't gone to a bubble. I'll have to admit that I was pretty skeptical at the start.

I did come across this article that suggests that most of the transmissions have come from sources other than the actual games:

The NFL cites outside influences for the most recent set of positive coronavirus tests, including exposures during the holiday season.

There were 21 new confirmed positive tests among players and 37 among other personnel in the league’s latest round of testing for COVID-19.

Dr. Allen Sills, the league's chief medical officer, referred to three sources of exposure: household, outside medical providers, and community/social settings.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/n ... /43304591/

Re: COVID

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:17 pm
by mykc14
RiverDog wrote:The CDC does rate rate football games between teams from different areas as being "highest risk", but I haven't heard of any transmission between teams or from referees. The NFL has some very extensive contract tracing measures, so you would think that we would have heard something over the course of the past 16 weeks.


It seems like it could be transmitted during a game but surprisingly I haven’t heard of any cases from games. It seems like the most at risk would be OL/DL who line up against each other during the whole game. I do vaguely remember a DL from the Falcons who tested positive after a game and the NFL noted a few players from their opponents who were placed in COVID isolation due to close contact (I think, this was a few months ago and I could he the facts wrong), but none ended up testing positive. I haven’t heard of any transmissions from any football players during games at any level, although the NFL and college levels are the ones really keeping track. It seems like it would be much harder to prove anything at the HS level because kids aren’t tested on a daily basis. At the end of the day the NFL has created a very safe environment for players, at least those who follow the protocols. Players have feel pretty confident that they are safe on game days.

Re: COVID

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:48 pm
by RiverDog
RiverDog wrote:The CDC does rate rate football games between teams from different areas as being "highest risk", but I haven't heard of any transmission between teams or from referees. The NFL has some very extensive contract tracing measures, so you would think that we would have heard something over the course of the past 16 weeks.


mykc14 wrote:It seems like it could be transmitted during a game but surprisingly I haven’t heard of any cases from games. It seems like the most at risk would be OL/DL who line up against each other during the whole game. I do vaguely remember a DL from the Falcons who tested positive after a game and the NFL noted a few players from their opponents who were placed in COVID isolation due to close contact (I think, this was a few months ago and I could he the facts wrong), but none ended up testing positive. I haven’t heard of any transmissions from any football players during games at any level, although the NFL and college levels are the ones really keeping track. It seems like it would be much harder to prove anything at the HS level because kids aren’t tested on a daily basis. At the end of the day the NFL has created a very safe environment for players, at least those who follow the protocols. Players have feel pretty confident that they are safe on game days.


The NFL has thrown a TON of money at the problem. The Seahawks alone are spending $40 million just on testing and have done things like prepare whole, individual meals for their players so they don't have to go out to a restaurant. They're technically not in a bubble but it's as close as one can get to isolation without calling it one. We really can't project the NFL's success as a template over the colleges and high schools.

It's too bad for Kupp. His landing on the COVID list is going to prevent him from a 1,000 yard receiving season. Gotta feel bad for a fellow Scream'in Eagle.

Re: COVID

PostPosted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:34 pm
by mykc14
RiverDog wrote:The NFL has thrown a TON of money at the problem. The Seahawks alone are spending $40 million just on testing and have done things like prepare whole, individual meals for their players so they don't have to go out to a restaurant. They're technically not in a bubble but it's as close as one can get to isolation without calling it one. We really can't project the NFL's success as a template over the colleges and high schools.

It's too bad for Kupp. His landing on the COVID list is going to prevent him from a 1,000 yard receiving season. Gotta feel bad for a fellow Scream'in Eagle.


No doubt about money having a huge impact on the success the NFL has had in keeping the players safe from COVID. I think college football tested multiple times a week as well, wish is an important safe guard. Really the only way to truly limit the spread in games is with multiple testing of players each week, but it is encouraging to see that in the rare cases that a player probably played with COVID it hasn’t spread.

I agree about Kupp. I was really hoping we would draft him. He would be the perfect compliment to our other receivers.

Re: COVID

PostPosted: Thu Dec 31, 2020 5:07 am
by RiverDog
mykc14 wrote:No doubt about money having a huge impact on the success the NFL has had in keeping the players safe from COVID. I think college football tested multiple times a week as well, wish is an important safe guard. Really the only way to truly limit the spread in games is with multiple testing of players each week, but it is encouraging to see that in the rare cases that a player probably played with COVID it hasn’t spread.

I agree about Kupp. I was really hoping we would draft him. He would be the perfect compliment to our other receivers.


NFL players in general are likely to be more disciplined and follow the protocols than college or high school athletes. Additionally, they are much more likely to live in an isolated environment than college or high school players. They don't have to worry about going home to their parent's house, attending classes, or eating in large cafeterias. As a fan, it's been pretty frustrating watching college football struggle through the season. The Pac 12 Championship game, for example, was made into a mockery when they inserted Oregon into it with a 3-2 record. It's what I feared would happen to the NFL.

With the amount of testing the NFL has done, it should provide us with some good data on what works and what doesn't, which activities pose the greatest risk, and so on. One of the problems we've had with our response is that there was no playbook to follow as we hadn't experienced this kind of pandemic since the Spanish Flu over 100 years ago.