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I sense there is a change in the guard with our receiver core. Perhaps Lockett is still not 100% but it still seems Metcalf has become the go to receiver.

Whenever they're playing man coverage, they look to Metcalf because he's big and fast and there's not many DB's that match up well with him. Lockett excels in the underneath routes. That's what happened on the last play, they saw they had a one on one matchup as Philly was loading up against the run.

Speaking of that last play, it would appear that Russell underthrew that ball and if it were any other situation, I'd agree. But when all we needed was a first down, Russell didn't want to overthrow him, as he did ever so slightly on the TD pass to him, so he took a little off it. At least that's my impression on what must have been going through Russ's mind at the time.

Turning him around and letting him high point the ball was the higher percentage play. It wasn't an under throw at all, it was a conscious decision. He even said after the game that he could have led him with the ball and it probably would have been 6 but all they needed was the first to win the game so he went with the higher percentage play.

c_hawkbob wrote:Turning him around and letting him high point the ball was the higher percentage play. It wasn't an under throw at all, it was a conscious decision. He even said after the game that he could have led him with the ball and it probably would have been 6 but all they needed was the first to win the game so he went with the higher percentage play.

RiverDog wrote:...it would appear that Russell underthrew that ball and if it were any other situation, I'd agree. But when all we needed was a first down, Russell didn't want to overthrow him, as he did ever so slightly on the TD pass to him (Metcalf), so he took a little off it. At least that's my impression on what must have been going through Russ's mind at the time.

Aren't we saying the same thing?

Actually yes, I misread your post to say that it was an under throw, I missed your caveat. Sorry.

I think it's a little too early to say that Metcalf is displacing Lockett. The connection with Lockett has been historically reliable, which is what Wilson wants. As long as the Wilson-to-Lockett connection has one of the highest QB ratings in history (maybe the highest?), Lockett will be the top option.

Oly wrote:I think it's a little too early to say that Metcalf is displacing Lockett. The connection with Lockett has been historically reliable, which is what Wilson wants. As long as the Wilson-to-Lockett connection has one of the highest QB ratings in history (maybe the highest?), Lockett will be the top option.

I wouldn't call it displacing either. They do different things and compliment each other perfectly. We don't need to restrict ourselves to only one quality receiver.

c_hawkbob wrote:Actually yes, I misread your post to say that it was an under throw, I missed your caveat. Sorry.

No need to apologize, it was apparent that you misread my comments. I just wanted to make sure you understood what my opinion was.

They complement one another . Lock was mostly terrific other then the drive killing drop early . The toe tapper was the best I’ve personally seen .

DK on the other hand is a superstar in the making, a Megatron, Julio Jones type guy. The difference yesterday was Russ and DK playing sandlot football . As DK said after the game they have worked together for months starting well before camp . He said Russ always tells him”attack the ball “. The TD was as big time a pitch and catch as I’ve seen, especially the ninja roll and lunge for the goal. The game ender I think Russ threw it right where he wanted . He wanted a good high soft ball and let the ripped 6’3” guy high point it . Loved the peace out wave goodbye too I swear the DBs trying to handle him look like little kids trying to tackle dad on the lawn . DK set an all time yards record for rookies in his first playoff game when his running backs totaled 17 yards . Think about that!Dude is a man. If this blossoms this could be doeble.

Metcalf is a physical stud. We been looking for a guy like that for years.

Aseahawkfan wrote:Metcalf is a physical stud. We been looking for a guy like that for years.

Yup. Let's just hope he keeps his head on straight. If he continues on the path he's currently on, he'll be that Julio Jones/Megatron/AJ Green type receiver that we've always dreamed of. Too bad Josh Gordon couldn't figure it out.

No matter how you look at it, we finally have a dual threat on the receiving core.

HawkDawg wrote:No matter how you look at it, we finally have a dual threat on the receiving core.

Not really, its all about RW. Not throw water on this whole post, but Metty is just a bodybuilder who cant run routes; Lockett is just a gadget WR. Doug Balwin, was a cut above them but a B+ WR at best. Nothing special about Will Disley, then all of a sudden, OH he is such a great TE, he was a DT at WA till they moved him to TE. Its Deon Branch all over again, Brady made DB a SB MVP, what was he under Matt H, who was a good not great qb? Nothing. Wilson can work with anyone, but dont get too excited about DKM, he is not that special, there is a REAL reason he dropped to 9th. Wait till he has to make a big play because our RGame is dog food. Put RW on the 9ers, put him the Ravens with a real line, not the one that's 31st in blocking. He would not have lost a game, period. Better yet how would Jimmy G do with our mutt food offense? Or how would LJ do if he was running behind the same line as RW? Imagine IF he had a REAL WR like a Julio Jones, or Amari Cooper, oh flock, oh dear!

Just an FYI Hawk shackers, 27. SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
Since entering the league, there has been no quarterback that has been more accustomed to pressure than Russell Wilson. He has faced pressure on 42% of his dropbacks since entering the NFL, and he is the only qualifying quarterback since 2012 with a rate over 40%. Wilson has been able to succeed despite the pass protection from his line, but that doesn’t change the fact that it has often been an issue — and it was a problem again this season. The Seahawks' pressure rate allowed in 2.5 seconds or less of 26.7% this year was third worst in the league, ahead of only the Jets and Dolphins.

But Russell continues to praise this warmed over garbage, gotta love him!

obiken wrote:Not really, its all about RW. Not throw water on this whole post, but Metty is just a bodybuilder who cant run routes; Lockett is just a gadget WR. Doug Balwin, was a cut above them but a B+ WR at best. Nothing special about Will Disley, then all of a sudden, OH he is such a great TE, he was a DT at WA till they moved him to TE. Its Deon Branch all over again, Brady made DB a SB MVP, what was he under Matt H, who was a good not great qb? Nothing. Wilson can work with anyone, but dont get too excited about DKM, he is not that special, there is a REAL reason he dropped to 9th. Wait till he has to make a big play because our RGame is dog food. Put RW on the 9ers, put him the Ravens with a real line, not the one that's 31st in blocking. He would not have lost a game, period. Better yet how would Jimmy G do with our mutt food offense? Or how would LJ do if he was running behind the same line as RW? Imagine IF he had a REAL WR like a Julio Jones, or Amari Cooper, oh flock, oh dear!

I couldn't disagree more. Metcalf is just a body builder? The man has the speed to take the top off a defense and at 6'4" tall, create matchup problems, particularly in the red zone. If I were going to be critical of him, it would be that he has some lapses in concentration that has resulted in a couple of fumbles and dropped passes. Lockett has matured from a burner/returner to an underneath slot receiver that knows how to run routes against zone defenses, and he has incredible hands and footwork that he demonstrates nearly every week. His hands and feet have bailed RW out on countless occasions, including last week on a play that Pete had to challenge to get overturned. Dissley was supposed to be just a blocking tight end, yet as it turns out, he is a fantastic receiver in his own right, the best all around TE since Zach Miller.

I'm pretty happy with our receiving corps, particularly if Dissley can successfully return from injury. It's one of the strengths of our team. Metcalf is the steal of the draft, a top 10 talent we got at the end of the 2nd round. Not sure what it is that's preventing you from being able to see that.

Okay I am wrong, I hope!

obiken wrote:Okay I am wrong, I hope!

Metcalf is the real deal. Russell is amazing and make almost any receiver look good even with all the pressure he faces. He might finally have a stud WR and a great WR in Lockett. He has some weapons now. If Pete and John can build him a decent O-line and keep the running game going, we might have an offense. Then we just gotta hope he build a new defense cheap. I'd rather go cheaper on defense with a coach like Pete than offense. Pete can scheme and coach up rook defenders with talent. He doesn't seem to be able to do the same magic on offense.

Aseahawkfan wrote:Metcalf is the real deal. Russell is amazing and make almost any receiver look good even with all the pressure he faces. He might finally have a stud WR and a great WR in Lockett. He has some weapons now. If Pete and John can build him a decent O-line and keep the running game going, we might have an offense. Then we just gotta hope he build a new defense cheap. I'd rather go cheaper on defense with a coach like Pete than offense. Pete can scheme and coach up rook defenders with talent. He doesn't seem to be able to do the same magic on offense.

It was a pretty good offense as it is if everyone was healthy. We finished 8th in total offense, 4th in rushing, 9th in points scored, and we don't turn the ball over much. Our weak link is defense, specifically our pass rush.

My major concern about Metcalf was his head. Meeting up with Pete bare chested had me concerned. Pete's response was great, perhaps made Metcalf realize how stupid it was, put him in his place. But everything I've heard and seen of him has made me a lot more comfortable about him. There were concerns early about his hands/concentration. He can learn how to run routes, but it's a lot more difficult to coach the artwork of being a receiver, ie hands, footwork, concentration. I'm as excited about him as I have been about any offensive player we've drafted since Russell.