What's the Deal with Penny?

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What's the Deal with Penny?

Postby RiverDog » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:19 am

He missed 4 games with an injured hammy but was back last weekend vs. the Ravens. However, he saw just two snaps in 71 offensive plays. And that's not the first time he's been virtually absent. He's been seldom used in his first 1.5 seasons and now it seems as if CJ Procise is the preferred change up/3rd down running back. Pete's explanation regarding Penny's inactivity last Sunday was that "it didn't work out for him." It hasn't "worked out" for Penny in his first year and a half.

https://www.thenewstribune.com/sports/n ... 29458.html

Keep an eye on him today. The trading deadline is this Tuesday the 29th at 4:00pm ET. Don't be surprised if a deal goes down before then.
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Re: What's the Deal with Penny?

Postby c_hawkbob » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:30 am

You don't risk injuring trade bait.
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Re: What's the Deal with Penny?

Postby LTH » Sun Oct 27, 2019 9:59 am

Not sure exactly what's going on with Penny. He is coming off injury... So maybe they are just bring him back slowly. There not going to trade him.. Carroll isn't going to give up on him so easily they guy has to much talent...

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Re: What's the Deal with Penny?

Postby RiverDog » Sun Oct 27, 2019 10:08 am

c_hawkbob wrote:You don't risk injuring trade bait.


Which is one of the reasons why I say to keep an eye on him. If he has a limited number of snaps, that could mean we're trading him.

LTH wrote:Not sure exactly what's going on with Penny. He is coming off injury... So maybe they are just bring him back slowly. There not going to trade him.. Carroll isn't going to give up on him so easily they guy has to much talent...

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I wouldn't be so sure. We're a player or two away from being a SB contender, and Penny is an asset that's being underutilized.

And as I say that, Penny gets a carry for a short gain.
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Re: What's the Deal with Penny?

Postby jshawaii22 » Sun Oct 27, 2019 11:04 am

Looks pretty good today --- he needs 100% heath to be good. His game is predicated on stop and cut, which is all about good knees and ankles.
Does Cincy need a running back?
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Re: What's the Deal with Penny?

Postby RiverDog » Sun Oct 27, 2019 12:02 pm

jshawaii22 wrote:Looks pretty good today --- he needs 100% heath to be good. His game is predicated on stop and cut, which is all about good knees and ankles.
Does Cincy need a running back?


Yea, he had 42 yards on 5 carries in the first half. That's quite a bit of usage if he's trade bait.
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Re: What's the Deal with Penny?

Postby trents » Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:12 pm

I think Proseis is just as likely to be traded as is Penny. Both are frequently injured but have big play potential. What are our options after those two if Carson goes down? Whose on the practice squad as far as RBs go?
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Re: What's the Deal with Penny?

Postby c_hawkbob » Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:15 pm

jshawaii22 wrote:Looks pretty good today --- he needs 100% heath to be good. His game is predicated on stop and cut, which is all about good knees and ankles.
Does Cincy need a running back?

RiverDog wrote:Yea, he had 42 yards on 5 carries in the first half. That's quite a bit of usage if he's trade bait.

No, that's just enough to show his value (which is why we didn't use him much after establishing the fact).
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Re: What's the Deal with Penny?

Postby obiken » Sun Oct 27, 2019 1:31 pm

I just dont see PC giving up on Penny, but you da man CB. IF we could get a Geno Atkins, or a Green, RP is gone.
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Re: What's the Deal with Penny?

Postby RiverDog » Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:26 pm

RiverDog wrote:Yea, he had 42 yards on 5 carries in the first half. That's quite a bit of usage if he's trade bait.


c_hawkbob wrote:No, that's just enough to show his value (which is why we didn't use him much after establishing the fact).


Penny finished with 8 carries for 55 yards. That's about average for him.

One of the reasons he didn't get more carries in the 2nd half could be that we didn't have nearly as many offensive snaps as we did in the first. I really don't think we can read much into his usage today whether or not he's trade bait.
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Re: What's the Deal with Penny?

Postby RiverDog » Sun Oct 27, 2019 5:34 pm

obiken wrote:I just dont see PC giving up on Penny, but you da man CB. IF we could get a Geno Atkins, or a Green, RP is gone.


Obi, it's not about Pete "giving up" on Penny. It's about improving the team. If we think that we're just a player or two away from being a SB contender, which I think is a reasonable assumption, and if Pete thinks he can improve the team by trading Penny, then depending on the player/pick(s), there's a good chance he's going to pull the trigger on a trade.

Now if we trade Penny for a 7th round pick, then you could say that Pete's given up on him.
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Re: What's the Deal with Penny?

Postby c_hawkbob » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:24 pm

RiverDog wrote:I really don't think we can read much into his usage today whether or not he's trade bait.


Maybe not based solely on his usage today, but it does fit the scenario, which, as it is what I came into the game believing, I'm still believing. Nothing that happened today does anything to make me think otherwise.
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Re: What's the Deal with Penny?

Postby RiverDog » Sun Oct 27, 2019 7:46 pm

Interesting observation from Ben Arthur of our old friend, the Seattle PI:

Perhaps Penny’s heavy involvement in the offense Sunday was the plan along; to set up a running back duo look that hadn’t yet shown itself this season. But maybe, too, it was to feature him for other NFL teams. The NFL Network reported Sunday morning that the Seahawks have been receiving calls about the second-year running back ahead of the trade deadline.

Rarely has Seattle let go of its first-round picks early in their careers in the Carroll-John Schneider era, but Penny might have the most trade value of any player the team could conceivably give up. With depth concerns at both center and tight end, maybe the Seahawks seriously consider giving up their top pick in 2018.


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Re: What's the Deal with Penny?

Postby Hawktawk » Mon Oct 28, 2019 6:37 am

he had a nice game. I'm a little gun shy about more trades when the safety we traded for was out with a hamstring. I see lots of potential with Penney. One thing he's got on Carson is straight line breakaway speed. It's also a fact that Carson has a bit of an injury history as well although hes much more reliable than Penney or prosise. I say keep those 3 in the stable.
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Re: What's the Deal with Penny?

Postby RiverDog » Mon Oct 28, 2019 7:10 am

Hawktawk wrote:he had a nice game. I'm a little gun shy about more trades when the safety we traded for was out with a hamstring. I see lots of potential with Penney. One thing he's got on Carson is straight line breakaway speed. It's also a fact that Carson has a bit of an injury history as well although hes much more reliable than Penney or prosise. I say keep those 3 in the stable.


For what we gave up for Diggs, he could be on the sidelines for the next month and still be a bargain. All we did was exchange a #5 for a' #7.

Schneider has pulled off some whoppers lately, not hardly giving up anything for Pro Bowl-quality players in Clowney and Diggs. I'm pretty confident that if he does trade Penny, it's going to be for a big net gain.

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