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This is an important game , surely not a must have game but pivotal with the rams coming to town next Thursday. I see a spy vs spy factor with two short mobile QBs with robust arms matching up. My guess is Murray looks up to Wilson and should be thankful as Russ made it possible for him to be a #1 pick. Az always provides a challenge for Seattle , as a cigar thoughts article last year said they “ turn all football to total s***”. I don’t feel bad about the game and hope last week losing to an inferior team by making virtually every mistake imaginable they will sharpen their focus and get to 3-1. I’m going with 31 24 HAWKS!!!!!!!!

Hawktawk wrote:This is an important game , surely not a must have game but pivotal with the rams coming to town next Thursday. I see a spy vs spy factor with two short mobile QBs with robust arms matching up. My guess is Murray looks up to Wilson and should be thankful as Russ made it possible for him to be a #1 pick. Az always provides a challenge for Seattle , as a cigar thoughts article last year said they “ turn all football to total s***”. I don’t feel bad about the game and hope last week losing to an inferior team by making virtually every mistake imaginable they will sharpen their focus and get to 3-1. I’m going with 31 24 HAWKS!!!!!!!!

I agree with your take. There is no such thing as a critical game in September, but when 2 of the 3 other teams in our division are undefeated, it's damn important for a one loss team win in order to keep pace.

I've been to 4 Seahawks-Cards games in Glendale, and it's as close to a home game as one can get outside of Seattle. There's a ton of Seahawk fans that have moved to Arizona to hit their rocking chairs and it's a popular destination with easy flight connections. The 12th man will be well represented.

Kyler Murray is Russell Wilson on steroids. He's younger, faster, and possess a great arm. We're going to have to give KJ and Kendricks hand grenades. Nevertheless, I'm optimistic that we'll prevail. Man for man, we have the better team.

Seahawks 24, Cards 21.

Typical hairpulling, nail biting, vein poppin, start again

ARZ 10 - Sea 7 at half

Final Score Sea 24 ARZ 17

PC's teams always crap early games in the season and get hot (usually) in the second half of the season. It would be nice for once to win the games we are supposed to win early in the season AND get hot the second half.
With the Rams on Thursday night, if this is not a must win, it is pretty darn close.

The Hawks seem to always play well in 'Zona. No exception so far. On TV the crowd sounds like it's more Seahawk fans then Zona.

... and in LA the Bucs are up by 14, too. Wow.

Man, Will Dissly maybe my favorite player right now. That playoff game in Atlanta in 2012 showcased both our own Zach Miller and the great Tony Gonzalez for Atlanta; two guys that did the job blocking and catching equally well. Now here's new blood able to do the same thing. Love it.

It's becoming apparent to me that W. Dissley is one of those receivers who has a knack for finding an open area in the field of play.

10-4 regarding Dissley. He was drafted with the intent of being a primarily blocking tight end, but he's turned out to be a very reliable receiver as well.

Our estimates of the pro Seahawk crowds in Arizona range from 35-50% inside the stadium, way more than that in the bars and restaurants. It's a fun road trip, weather is always nice, great venue for football. I strongly encourage you folks to make it down there some day.

Well, in this game the Hawks are reversing their usual tendency in that today they decided to play the first half but not the second half.

How do you get a delay of game coming off a touchback on a kickoff?

Chris Carson is a stud!

the Rams just gave up a 50-bagger to the Bucs. Looking ahead to Thursday, maybe?

jshawaii22 wrote:the Rams just gave up a 50-bagger to the Bucs. Looking ahead to Thursday, maybe?

And a 50 bagger at home and to the Bucs, of all teams. Not exactly an offensive juggernaut led by a future HOF QB. I doubt we'll see Ramblow this week.

Damn right I'm looking forward to this Thursday. We played a solid game after losing a poorly played one a week ago. Chris Carson played an entire game without putting the ball on the ground and added 145 all purpose yards on 26 touches. Russell didn't throw any picks. Dissly hauled in 7 receptions, including a TD. Clowney added his first big impact play as a Hawk. No significant injuries.

Not without some warts, though. After not picking up any penalties in the first half, we drew 7 flags in the 2nd. Outside of the pick 6 and the 2 missed FG's by the Cards, the stats line was pretty even. Russell was sacked 4 times.

All in all, a pretty good Sunday, except for my Pick'em selections.

Any win is good but keep in mind that it was against another winless team. But there did seem to be improvement in some areas, particularly in the running game and the penalty department.

This was a good win, because any road divisional win is key. The Seahawks had good momentum early, and benefited from some momentum killing fg misses by Cards. We also saw Meyers do ok. And, hey, what do you know, the short passing game is effective. The short passing game is working. Let's keep mixing that in, particularly early to give the offense momentum, and prevent dumb holds. I like our team. They're working on their identity, but always show good hustle. I don't know what happened last week, other than it seemed they celebrated Pete's b-day too long. We're in a pretty good place. SF sits atop division, but there's a long way to go. The Rams getting mollywhoped in their own building by the Buccs was shocking. We're gonna be facing one pizzed off group, which will be a great home test for us. Go Hawks.

Against NO last week the whole problem undoubtedly was that the team was distressed and distracted by the injury to Pete's snoz.

trents wrote:Against NO last week the whole problem undoubtedly was that the team was distressed and distracted by the injury to Pete's snoz.

NO, it NO's defense as we saw tonight was way better than everyone thought.

trents wrote:Any win is good but keep in mind that it was against another winless team. But there did seem to be improvement in some areas, particularly in the running game and the penalty department.

It was win. We supposed to win, we had to win otherwise with our schedule we would have to beat team that we were not a good match up with, and we won. Still Too many penalties.

Story of two halves and the offense stopped dead for the first 20 minutes of the second half was not very encouraging. No dagger to put the game out of reach until the 'big drive' but Russell does seem to be good at 'killing the clock' during the end of the game.
Defense did what the D needs to do for the whole game.

This Thursday the O needs to be playing for 60 minutes like Tampa Bay did today and keep Russell upright.
This is the best chance we've had to beat the Rams in a couple of years.

Twitter accts said our dressing room was all over the Rams game as it ended up running over 45 minutes slower and there was a team watch party in 'Zona before coming back. That was an awesome 4th qtr from Tampa. We need to do it them the same way.
Twitter also said the Rams locker room was a lot of nothing except swearing and random yelling.

obiken wrote:NO, it NO's defense as we saw tonight was way better than everyone thought.

That was comforting. NO Defense is legit.

trents wrote:Against NO last week the whole problem undoubtedly was that the team was distressed and distracted by the injury to Pete's snoz.

obiken wrote:NO, it NO's defense as we saw tonight was way better than everyone thought.

It's not like Pete was hurt bad enough to stay away from the game. It might have been a distraction for Cody Barton, the guy that threw the ball, but no one else. Once the whistle blows, everyone's focus is on their jobs.

And Obi is right. We all fall under the illusion that NO is nothing but Drew Brees's Fantasy Football giant, but they have a great defense and Bridgewater is proving to be a very adequate backup QB. They are one of the top teams in the conference.

It will be interesting to see which Rams team shows up Thursday. The key will be if we can get pressure with just rushing 4. Goff is one of the worst QB's in the league at handling pressure and with the help of the 12th man, which should be out in full force, we might be able to force 4 or 5 turnovers.

That kid Murray is going to be really good . Good win. Carson didn’t fumble. Dissley is a stud. We get so spoiled by Wilson. The shark eyes , the catchable touch on daggers perfectly thrown . Clowneys pick 6 demonstrates the athleticism of the man. I agree the rams are there for the taking coming in here in prime time. Gurley is whining about playing on Thursday “ dumbest thing ever” . My guess is rambutt might be a little quiet this week after the 55 burger given up. GO HAWKS!!!!

trents wrote:Any win is good but keep in mind that it was against another winless team. But there did seem to be improvement in some areas, particularly in the running game and the penalty department.

The teams are still in the shakeout process, so W/L records are pretty irrelevant. But I do agree that all of our wins have come against teams not expected to compete for the Super Bowl. We have a chance to make a statement Thursday night.

The Rams will be coming here pizzed.
I like out chances still with our team on prime time, but LA is going to be more than ready.

jshawaii22 wrote:How do you get a delay of game coming off a touchback on a kickoff?

That's easy to answer. Have you watched Russ WALK onto the field. He only seems to trot when down multiple scores in the 4th. I'd love to know the times we actually score and move the ball when he walks onto the field opposed to when he trots or runs onto the field.

Wow you're hard to please ID.. Grumpy?

I will say one less than bright spot this year and last Sunday is DKs hands. They are stone. Even on the TD catch a couple weeks ago he was bobbling it and almost went out of the endzone before securing it. He should have squeezed that first ball in his hands for a TD last week and it cost seattle 4 points that might need another week.I hope he's not another Darryl Turner, great wheels, big body and terrible inconsistent hands.

Hawktawk wrote:Wow you're hard to please ID.. Grumpy?

I will say one less than bright spot this year and last Sunday is DKs hands. They are stone. Even on the TD catch a couple weeks ago he was bobbling it and almost went out of the endzone before securing it. He should have squeezed that first ball in his hands for a TD last week and it cost seattle 4 points that might need another week.I hope he's not another Darryl Turner, great wheels, big body and terrible inconsistent hands.

No, I've been railing on his walking on and off the field nonchalantly for years now. Mostly since the team only plays in the second half and most notably in the 4th qtr only.

Regarding DK, RW has to place the ball better so that DK can take advantage of his height over the defenders. He should not be catching balls below the waist and probably shouldn't be catching them below the shoulder pads except when he's wide open.

You've always been railing against Russ for absolutely anything you can come up with. I'll frankly never understand it.

idhawkman wrote:No, I've been railing on his walking on and off the field nonchalantly for years now. Mostly since the team only plays in the second half and most notably in the 4th qtr only.

Regarding DK, RW has to place the ball better so that DK can take advantage of his height over the defenders. He should not be catching balls below the waist and probably shouldn't be catching them below the shoulder pads except when he's wide open.

You never compliment the guy on his play even though he's the only reason we're competitive at this point in time.

Or the fact he hasn't missed a game in seven years, going on eight. While performing at a top 5 level in several areas and top 10 across the board.

Unbelievable you can bag on Russ for small, dumb things, but overlook immensely idiotic blunders or make excuse after excuse for others performing less well.

I've been a pretty fair critic of Russell over the years, too. But if a person can't recognize that he's currently playing the best football of his career, they need to see a shrink. He's playing at a MVP level.

Oh, yea, knock on wood. He's about to take his first snap vs the Rams.

idhawkman wrote:No, I've been railing on his walking on and off the field nonchalantly for years now. Mostly since the team only plays in the second half and most notably in the 4th qtr only.

Regarding DK, RW has to place the ball better so that DK can take advantage of his height over the defenders. He should not be catching balls below the waist and probably shouldn't be catching them below the shoulder pads except when he's wide open.

Aseahawkfan wrote:You never compliment the guy on his play even though he's the only reason we're competitive at this point in time.

Or the fact he hasn't missed a game in seven years, going on eight. While performing at a top 5 level in several areas and top 10 across the board.

Unbelievable you can bag on Russ for small, dumb things, but overlook immensely idiotic blunders or make excuse after excuse for others performing less well.

That's actually not true. I've complimented him a number of times. I just don't let obvious things go when he's the highest paid guy in the league and to many in here, he's elite. I think he has the potential and this year he is showing that he can be elite. I'd just like to see him start placing the ball better for Metcalf where only he can catch it. Metcalf is tall and strong and when he's being contested the ball should be above his shoulders which in many cases puts the DB's arms above their heads and in weaker position.

idhawkman wrote:That's actually not true. I've complimented him a number of times. I just don't let obvious things go when he's the highest paid guy in the league and to many in here, he's elite. I think he has the potential and this year he is showing that he can be elite. I'd just like to see him start placing the ball better for Metcalf where only he can catch it. Metcalf is tall and strong and when he's being contested the ball should be above his shoulders which in many cases puts the DB's arms above their heads and in weaker position.

I cannot recall you ever complimenting him. Maybe it's just that you criticize him far more.

Aseahawkfan wrote:
I cannot recall you ever complimenting him. Maybe it's just that you criticize him far more.

That is true, I do criticize him more and I am more critical of him than other players but that is because I have high expectations for him and maybe not so high for lesser players.

That said, I posted in the disaster thread that I though today was the closest thing I've seen any QB let alone RW to a perfect game.

.... dare I say it????? Today RW was ellllllllll - nope, can't quite say it yet. Maybe tomorrow.





Naw, I will say it after all, today he was elite.

Aseahawkfan wrote:I cannot recall you ever complimenting him. Maybe it's just that you criticize him far more.

idhawkman wrote:That is true, I do criticize him more and I am more critical of him than other players but that is because I have high expectations for him and maybe not so high for lesser players.

That said, I posted in the disaster thread that I though today was the closest thing I've seen any QB let alone RW to a perfect game.

.... dare I say it????? Today RW was ellllllllll - nope, can't quite say it yet. Maybe tomorrow.

Naw, I will say it after all, today he was elite.

Russell's been elite ALL SEASON. He has yet to throw an interception and has a passer rating of 124.7, tops in the league by a long shot. Plus he's not taking stupid, Bret Favre-like risks by taking 10+ yard sacks. He's not putting us behind the sticks like he has in years past. He's made good decisions, run when he has to, and his accuracy for the most part has been spot-on.

It's only 6 games, but this is by far the best start any Seahawk quarterback has had in franchise history. 4 of our 5 wins have been by 4 points or less, and personally I attribute winning close games as a direct function of good QB play.

RiverDog wrote:Russell's been elite ALL SEASON. He has yet to throw an interception and has a passer rating of 124.7, tops in the league by a long shot. Plus he's not taking stupid, Bret Favre-like risks by taking 10+ yard sacks. He's not putting us behind the sticks like he has in years past. He's made good decisions, run when he has to, and his accuracy for the most part has been spot-on.

It's only 6 games, but this is by far the best start any Seahawk quarterback has had in franchise history. 4 of our 5 wins have been by 4 points or less, and personally I attribute winning close games as a direct function of good QB play.

I'd really love to just leave this alone and move on but as I've said many times, Elite is not a short term accomplishment. You can have elite moments like RW this past game and yes, even this season but to be elite you have to do it over a longer time frame. RW is definitely on that trajectory and he's continued even further than what he was 3-4 years ago when I refused to dub him Elite. He is now entering that relm though and I would love to see him continue on for many more years.

idahawkman wrote:Naw, I will say it after all, today he was elite.

idhawkman wrote:I'd really love to just leave this alone and move on but as I've said many times, Elite is not a short term accomplishment.

It was you that was throwing around the word "elite" to describe a short term accomplishment. All I was doing was simply duplicating your terminology.

Choose whatever term you want to describe Russell's performance vs. the Browns. My point was that he's been doing it all season, not just last Sunday.