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The first pick is in, it's Murray no real surprise.

Boza is next. 9ers finally got the DE thing right.

J-E-T-S took the player I would of drafted... had we made the Clark trade to the JETS instead of KC --

jshawaii22 wrote:J-E-T-S took the player I would of drafted... had we made the Clark trade to the JETS instead of KC --

You and me both bubba!

Ferril to the Raiders, surprise but the Raiders never do it by the book.

Bucs take the ILB out of LSU good choice. A typical Arians pick, smart!

Looks like Niners will chase RW into the turf now and Cards will throw it all over. Lol. Wait till Rams. Hawks will squander both pi ks tonight and pi k RB tomm

Jones to the Giants, certain bust 100% IMHO.

9th pick Williams of Alabama OT. 3 sacks in 4 years, talk about 100% bust proof.

Cincy got lucky.

Haskins went to the Skins. Not bad value for them. Giants are going to regret this pick.

Raiders and Giants made head scratchers. Giants could have gotten their QB later in the 1st round.

We all knew that was coming... Trade!

Not a fan of that trade! Tired of being cute and trading back. We have not been to even the nfc championship game since 2015, clearly it’s not working lately.

Stream Hawk wrote:Not a fan of that trade! Tired of being cute and trading back. We have not been to even the nfc championship game since 2015, clearly it’s not working lately.

Oh no kidding, if Pete could draft Offensive talent we might be dangerous.

Hey guys. I'm in the hospital and have limited access. Can someone post the details of our trade with GB for me? If we trade again can someone post that too?

Swapped 1st rounders (Seahawks 29, 30 and 2 of GB's 4th round picks. Seems a little weak to me. I would of thought a 2nd and 4th, but Schneider is getting too easy to read. Get well soon!!! Sucks to be sick.

idhawkman wrote:Hey guys. I'm in the hospital and have limited access. Can someone post the details of our trade with GB for me? If we trade again can someone post that too?

Sorry ID, get well!

Thank you all. I'm ok they fixed my deviated sceptum today. I'll be home tomorrow - using iPad for tonight on hospital wifi for now so searching is pretty hard to do.

9. L.J. COLLIER TCU 8.1 rSR 6022 283 4.91 (1.75) 3400 1000 8178 2nd Rounder Often ranks among the last off the ball, which is disconcerting given that Collier flashes an explosive burst when he wants to use it, raising questions about his awareness and focus. Too often he looks like he's walking through cement, showing just average speed and effort in pursuit outside of the tackle box. An impressive performance in Mobile has Collier's stock rising still further as he showed an intriguing blend of power and agility, projecting as a jack-of-all trades, master of none type who can play multiple roles up and down the line of scrimmage.

We could have had Sweat, who was a wayyy better prospect. This guy runs a 4.9, Sweat 4.41. I am not seeing it.

DRAFT TRACKER
Round 1 • Pick 29 (29) • DE L.J. Collier
Round 2 • Pick 5 (37) • From Giants
Round 3 • Pick 29 (92) • From Chiefs
Round 4 • Pick 12 (114) • From Packers
Round 4 • Pick 16 (118) • From Redskins through Packers
Round 4 • Pick 22 (124)
Round 4 • Pick 30 (132) • From Saints through Giants
Round 5 • Pick 4 (142) • From 49ers through Giants
Round 5 • Pick 21 (159)


From a few picks to lots of picks. Lets hope there's success in numbers.
Seahawks Draft Tracker

We missed Fant by one pick, IF we hadnt I would have done my usual flip out.

obiken wrote:9. L.J. COLLIER TCU 8.1 rSR 6022 283 4.91 (1.75) 3400 1000 8178 2nd Rounder Often ranks among the last off the ball, which is disconcerting given that Collier flashes an explosive burst when he wants to use it, raising questions about his awareness and focus. Too often he looks like he's walking through cement, showing just average speed and effort in pursuit outside of the tackle box. An impressive performance in Mobile has Collier's stock rising still further as he showed an intriguing blend of power and agility, projecting as a jack-of-all trades, master of none type who can play multiple roles up and down the line of scrimmage.

We could have had Sweat, who was a wayyy better prospect. This guy runs a 4.9, Sweat 4.41. I am not seeing it.

Pete describes him as a lot like Michael Bennett. Slippery inside and good pass rusher from the edge.
He seems like a good fit here.

Okay, but it took a long time for Michael Bennett to develop. He was an UDFA, not many guys have made it from there to All Pro. I have just always believed that you go for the best available prospect. Holmy used reach and it drove me crazy. Chris Spencer, Daryl Tapp, Kelly Jennings. ect.

obiken wrote:9. L.J. COLLIER TCU 8.1 rSR 6022 283 4.91 (1.75) 3400 1000 8178 2nd Rounder Often ranks among the last off the ball, which is disconcerting given that Collier flashes an explosive burst when he wants to use it, raising questions about his awareness and focus. Too often he looks like he's walking through cement, showing just average speed and effort in pursuit outside of the tackle box. An impressive performance in Mobile has Collier's stock rising still further as he showed an intriguing blend of power and agility, projecting as a jack-of-all trades, master of none type who can play multiple roles up and down the line of scrimmage.

We could have had Sweat, who was a wayyy better prospect. This guy runs a 4.9, Sweat 4.41. I am not seeing it.

NorthHawk wrote:Pete describes him (Collier) as a lot like Michael Bennett. Slippery inside and good pass rusher from the edge.
He seems like a good fit here.

We could have had Sweat at #21, which would have meant no trade down. Sweat had one of the most impressive workouts for DE's and had top 10 potential, but a lot of teams with a need at an edge rusher passed on him, so the reported heart conditions must have been valid. He also had some character concerns. I thought we might take him at #21, too, but not at all disappointed that we didn't.

The fact that Collier can play inside or out was probably the deciding factor in his selection. Pete has said that he wants another Michael Bennett-type player, and this guy fits that mold.

I thought that we could have gotten a little more mileage out of those trade downs, but we've gone from pick poor to pick rich with that #21 overall We have a big gap between #37 in the 2nd and #92 in the 3rd, so don't be surprised to see us package a couple of those four 4th rounders to move up late in the 2nd or early in the 3rd. We have 4 selections within 18 slots in the 4th round, I can't see us making picks with all of them.

RiverDog wrote:We could have had Sweat at #21, which would have meant no trade down. Sweat had one of the most impressive workouts for DE's and had top 10 potential, but a lot of teams with a need at an edge rusher passed on him, so the reported heart conditions must have been valid. He also had some character concerns. I thought we might take him at #21, too, but not at all disappointed that we didn't.

The fact that Collier can play inside or out was probably the deciding factor in his selection. Pete has said that he wants another Michael Bennett-type player, and this guy fits that mold.

I thought that we could have gotten a little more mileage out of those trade downs, but we've gone from pick poor to pick rich with that #21 overall We have a big gap between #37 in the 2nd and #92 in the 3rd, so don't be surprised to see us package a couple of those four 4th rounders to move up late in the 2nd or early in the 3rd. We have 4 selections within 18 slots in the 4th round, I can't see us making picks with all of them.

After missing on McDowell, I can see JS/PC being hesitant to draft a guy with both medical and character concerns. Does Sweat have a higher ceiling? Hell yeah. Is he much less likely to reach his ceiling than Collier? Hell yeah, and not only because of the medical/character concerns; Collier has more refined technique, and the inability to transition from reliance on explosiveness to reliance on technique is one of the main reasons that prospects bust. Hawks fans have been rightly critical with some of the risks the front office has taken, so I'm surprised that there isn't more satisfaction with taking the safer pick. Now, if the Hawks had a boatload of picks, I would have loved to see them get Sweat with their first pick and then get another DE in the 2nd/3rd in case Sweat busts. But that wasn't the situation, so I'm on board--although not enthusiastic--with Collier.

We did what we were expected to do; trade down and then draft a guy most had pegged for the 2nd or 3rd round in the first.

If it was an offensive selection I'd be worried, but Pete has a better eye for defensive talent so I'm OK with it. At least it was a guy I had on my board!

Brian Baldinger provides a clip of him and discusses his evaluation.

https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/112 ... 45/video/1

Here's Pete and John's press conference after the pick:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzkBLy5k0dI

Oly wrote:After missing on McDowell, I can see JS/PC being hesitant to draft a guy with both medical and character concerns. Does Sweat have a higher ceiling? Hell yeah. Is he much less likely to reach his ceiling than Collier? Hell yeah, and not only because of the medical/character concerns; Collier has more refined technique, and the inability to transition from reliance on explosiveness to reliance on technique is one of the main reasons that prospects bust. Hawks fans have been rightly critical with some of the risks the front office has taken, so I'm surprised that there isn't more satisfaction with taking the safer pick. Now, if the Hawks had a boatload of picks, I would have loved to see them get Sweat with their first pick and then get another DE in the 2nd/3rd in case Sweat busts. But that wasn't the situation, so I'm on board--although not enthusiastic--with Collier.

I was thinking the same thing regarding the McDowell fiasco when we passed on Sweat. As far as 12's being dissatisfied, I'm pretty much with Cbob, that Pete has such a good eye for defensive players that I trust his judgement, so I'm on board with Collier, too. And I don't think we're done drafting DL's, either.

My only dissatisfaction is that I thought that we could have gotten more mileage out of the trades. We traded #1's twice and ended up with a high 2nd, a low 3rd, and a slug of 4th rounders.

Today I expect us to take a WR with our #37 overall, either Campbell, Brown, or Metcalf. But don't tune out after we make our pick at #37.

I can see us trading down again a few spots if we can get a mid 3rd and giving up one of the 4ths we got yesterday.
It depends on the other teams of course so we might just have to wait.

Somewhere we should take a good interior DL and a Guard. I can see us taking a WR in the 4th as well as a TE.
RB is still a possibility, too.

NorthHawk wrote:I can see us trading down again a few spots if we can get a mid 3rd and giving up one of the 4ths we got yesterday.
It depends on the other teams of course so we might just have to wait.

Somewhere we should take a good interior DL and a Guard. I can see us taking a WR in the 4th as well as a TE.
RB is still a possibility, too.

IMO we're done trading down in this draft unless someone makes us an offer we can't refuse.

Anyone want to bet a tall cold one that our #37 will be a WR?

RiverDog wrote:
IMO we're done trading down in this draft unless someone makes us an offer we can't refuse.

Anyone want to bet a tall cold one that our #37 will be a WR?

I can't imagine Pete being satisfied not having any late round picks, I think we trade down at least one more time, maybe twice to fill out the bottom of our draft.

RiverDog wrote:
IMO we're done trading down in this draft unless someone makes us an offer we can't refuse.

Anyone want to bet a tall cold one that our #37 will be a WR?

I think our next pick will be a WR and whether or not we trade down depends on if there is a run on them in the first few picks of this round.

The odds might be against trading down, but there is a big gap between 37 and 92
so they might want to move down some and throw in a 4th to get a little higher
in the 3rd.
And like Bob said they might trade down to fill out the 6th and 7th rounds.

LIke JS said, they may trade down to UDFA's a lot this year! Hey why not! How about tryouts? It worked for the Eagles, once! Sorry hoping to hit on players in the 6th and 7th round is not a good strategy.

I like all this trading down! I think we would have taken Deebo and the Niners sniped us ...

Love Risner, Lock's a descent pick for the Donkeys too, they made the most of that double dip.

Happy we took Blair!!

He won't make anyone forget Earl, but he's gonna be a good one!

I should have said that we'll take a WR in the 2nd round.

I'm intrigued by Metcalf. He has a huge upside, could be another Dez Bryant, and might turn out to be that red zone threat we've been looking for. Nice to see that we finally have a big, strong WR in our receiving corps.

D to the K! Wow.
I love this pick and I’m starting to love this draft. Maybe not this coming season, but the following season I will expect more championships.

RiverDog wrote:I should have said that we'll take a WR in the 2nd round.

I'm intrigued by Metcalf. He has a huge upside, could be another Dez Bryant, and might turn out to be that red zone threat we've been looking for. Nice to see that we finally have a big, strong WR in our receiving corps.

I would have taken Whitesided Riv but I cannot argue with this pick, he was an 8.6 and the 2nd best WR on the board.

An impressive size/speed specimen but he played just seven games before suffering a neck injury that required surgery. He boasts rich NFL bloodlines with grandfather (Terry), father (Terrence) and uncle (Eric) all playing in the NFL. Receivers with raw talent like D.K. come around once in a blue moon.
PROS: Physically imposing, he has a ripped up physique and despite his 230-pound frame, flashes rare speed for a wide out his size. He has the height and thick frame to dominate in jump ball situations, as he is very effective at high pointing the ball. A load to take down in the open field because of his size but with his long strides, he is difficult to catch if he gets a step. He really gets after it as a blocker in the run game and does a good job of sticking with his assignment.
CONS: Unaware of sidelines and hashes at times. Not as polished route runner as his Ole Miss teammates (A.J. Brown & Damarkus Lodge), although he has more upside. He is a strong runner after the catch but he won’t make many defenders miss and his change of direction is only average at best. His 2018 neck injury will likely be a medical red flag for many teams, despite receiving medical clearance. He also broke his foot and was awarded a medical hardship as a freshman.
“He looked like Jim Brown. He’s the biggest wide out I’ve ever seen. You have to ask yourself, who is tackling this guy? We had pictures of him with his shirt off, it made me want to get into the weight room. This guy is really put together but he shows good elusiveness, good change of direction and I think he is healthy. I think he has been cleared medically, which is the number one thing we wanted to find out.” – Jon Gruden, Oakland Raiders head coach
COMPARISON: Terrell Owens, San Francisco 49ers - It might take a year or two to get there but Metcalf could transition into being a great one with the talent he has.