Something positive to think about

[Anthony]

In the last 3 games Wilson is

837 yards, 8 tds 1 int, 65% complt % and 8.12 ypa. That's pretty good and a sign he might be getting hot at the right time and that against pass defenses rank 5th, 9th and 12th.

[Zorn76]

It's a good sign.
Time to rally for the playoffs.

[RiverDog]

In the last 3 games Wilson is

837 yards, 8 tds 1 int, 65% complt % and 8.12 ypa. That's pretty good and a sign he might be getting hot at the right time and that against pass defenses rank 5th, 9th and 12th.

If that's the only positive thing you can come up with, then we're in deep caca. The Packers are the 31st ranked pass defense and the Saints were ranked DFL against the pass and that stat didn't matter one iota, we still played horribly and lost, so your observation means absolutely nothing to me.

We still have had just one road win against a playoff quality opponent, and that's beginning to look more and more like an anomaly. We'll have to win at least one road game, more than likely two, if we are to get back to the SB and we play like chit on the road. I just don't see it happening.

Russell had a relatively good day yesterday, was protected relatively well, yet we barely pulled out a victory against one of the worst teams in the league in a game that meant nothing to them but had major implications for us. I hate to say it, but I get the sense that our window is closing. This is the worst Pete Carroll coached team since the rebuild. Time for some major changes or it's going to be another 3 years of this mediocrity before people finally come to the conclusion that the current formula doesn't work anymore.

[Rambo2014]

Relax, you will be back on the bottom after Saturday. I expect a recharged Lions to put up 30 pts. Doubt if you get past 3rd place in the NFC West next season. Rams are upcoming now, nothing ahead but the sky!!! Seahawks in a down spiral of performance and infighting. The tussle will be between Ariens and Sean Payton (new Rams Coach)

[Hawktawk]

If that's the only positive thing you can come up with, then we're in deep caca. The Packers are the 31st ranked pass defense and the Saints were ranked DFL against the pass and that stat didn't matter one iota, we still played horribly and lost, so your observation means absolutely nothing to me.

We still have had just one road win against a playoff quality opponent, and that's beginning to look more and more like an anomaly. We'll have to win at least one road game, more than likely two, if we are to get back to the SB and we play like chit on the road. I just don't see it happening.

Russell had a relatively good day yesterday, was protected relatively well, yet we barely pulled out a victory against one of the worst teams in the league in a game that meant nothing to them but had major implications for us. I hate to say it, but I get the sense that our window is closing. This is the worst Pete Carroll coached team since the rebuild. Time for some major changes or it's going to be another 3 years of this mediocrity before people finally come to the conclusion that the current formula doesn't work anymore.

RW just tied the record for most wins first 5 seasons and set the record as the only QB to win at least 10 games the first 5 seasons of his career. Congrats.
He and the offense is still having a hell of a time getting started most games. Including AZ where he had monster stats but only 3 points till late in the 3rd quarter at home in a must win game.
The defense folded late after being hung out to dry for 3 quarters and the Hawks lost the 2 seed.
Even yesterday the offense was dreadfully slow to get going, blowing a turnover on our 20 when Russ missed a wide open Graham.
Stats can be deceiving and in this instance they are. Our offense needs to be better this year in this NFC without our HOF safety or we are going home, maybe Saturday.

All that said though RD I think its premature to be pulling the ripcord on this season or group of players. We will see.

[Hawktawk]

Relax, you will be back on the bottom after Saturday. I expect a recharged Lions to put up 30 pts. Doubt if you get past 3rd place in the NFC West next season. Rams are upcoming now, nothing ahead but the sky!!! Seahawks in a down spiral of performance and infighting. The tussle will be between Ariens and Sean Payton (new Rams Coach)

Yeah good luck with Sean Payton LOL.
7-9 cellar dwellers with a HOF QB behind center for 3 straight years. Old Jeff Fisher meet the new Jeff Fisher LMAO.

Rambutt at least we get extra games pretty much every year and a playoff win or more in 6 of the last 7 years while the Lambs look for the flight data recorder on another crashed and burned season.

[RiverDog]

RW just tied the record for most wins first 5 seasons and set the record as the only QB to win at least 10 games the first 5 seasons of his career. Congrats.
He and the offense is still having a hell of a time getting started most games. Including AZ where he had monster stats but only 3 points till late in the 3rd quarter at home in a must win game.
The defense folded late after being hung out to dry for 3 quarters and the Hawks lost the 2 seed.
Even yesterday the offense was dreadfully slow to get going, blowing a turnover on our 20 when Russ missed a wide open Graham.
Stats can be deceiving and in this instance they are. Our offense needs to be better this year in this NFC without our HOF safety or we are going home, maybe Saturday.

All that said though RD I think its premature to be pulling the ripcord on this season or group of players. We will see.

Except as it relates to our team winning football games, I could care less about Russell's personal achievements.

I realize that there's always a chance that we could catch lightning in a bottle and go off on a sustained streak of great football and that on the cusp of the playoffs it's awfully premature to be talking about wholesale changes. But there is no denying that by reading the tea leaves it doesn't look good. One bad omen is that we just snapped our 4 straight years as the league's top points defense and earlier this season, we snapped our league record of not losing a game by 10+ points. Despite committing just 18 turnovers, an average just slightly over 1 per game, we still finished a mere plus 1 in turnover margin. That's not what we're used to seeing.

[NorthHawk]

We seemed to regress in a number of areas this year.
Turnover margin, special teams, Offense.
The Defense held it's own, but wasn't as dominating as previous years.

I had the feeling and still think that the Arizona game that ended in an Overtime tie took a lot out of them. They just didn't seem the same since.

[RiverDog]

We seemed to regress in a number of areas this year.
Turnover margin, special teams, Offense.
The Defense held it's own, but wasn't as dominating as previous years.

I had the feeling and still think that the Arizona game that ended in an Overtime tie took a lot out of them. They just didn't seem the same since.

IMO we can draw a direct line back to that interception in SB 49. We haven't been the same team since that play. I, for one, haven't felt the same way about these past two editions as I did with the previous 3.

[Hawktawk]

The team beat New England in foxboro after Az.

Here is what changed. Prosise who led us in rushing and recieving vs New England and opened the Eagles win by housing it from 70 plus got injured. Then Earl got hurt, the biggest factor on defense

Now we have lost the most dynamic returner we ever had and a take the top off receiver.

Still I'm not going to apologize for being a 3 seed 10 win division champ and I'm not going to throw dirt on their grave. There's still the heart of a champion beating in the V Mac . Never say never.

Im sure the 2011 9-7 giants enjoy their Lombardi just as much as if they were 14-2.

[Hawktawk]

And RD most franchises that lose a Super Bowl like that implode and are never heard from again. All Seattle has done is remain one of the toughest outs in NFL history and return to two more playoffs .

Some of you guys are doomsayers and pretty damn spoiled and unappreciative too.

[Anthony]

RW just tied the record for most wins first 5 seasons and set the record as the only QB to win at least 10 games the first 5 seasons of his career. Congrats.
He and the offense is still having a hell of a time getting started most games. Including AZ where he had monster stats but only 3 points till late in the 3rd quarter at home in a must win game.
The defense folded late after being hung out to dry for 3 quarters and the Hawks lost the 2 seed.
Even yesterday the offense was dreadfully slow to get going, blowing a turnover on our 20 when Russ missed a wide open Graham.
Stats can be deceiving and in this instance they are. Our offense needs to be better this year in this NFC without our HOF safety or we are going home, maybe Saturday.

All that said though RD I think its premature to be pulling the ripcord on this season or group of players. We will see.

Hmm okay I guess if he was completing 50% of his passes for 200 yards 8 ints and 1 td in the last 3 games you would feel better. The point still is he his playing better and that can only help us down the road, but hey lets not look at the positive lets turn everything into a negative. WOW OH Aaron Rodgers missed a wide open Nelson for a TD last night I guess they are screwed now too. LOL WOW

[Uppercut]

I am still thinking there is more to it all than meets the eye. PC is sandbagging it having the playoff spot locked in. Trying to not show the power and glory that will re-emerge o Saturday and have all the talking heads buzzing. Good theory as any. But then again the team could prowl with each other on the sideline and lose 50-0.

[RiverDog]

And RD most franchises that lose a Super Bowl like that implode and are never heard from again. All Seattle has done is remain one of the toughest outs in NFL history and return to two more playoffs .

Some of you guys are doomsayers and pretty damn spoiled and unappreciative too.

I agree with both statements, sort of. Seattle is still one of the toughest outs and there's been many teams, such as last year's two SB participants, that have done a face plant after their SB seasons, and I am damn spoiled. I expect SB's and Lombardi's, not 10 win seasons and divisional championships.

But I am not unappreciative. Being a Seahawk fan sure beats the hell out of being a Rams fan.

[HumanCockroach]

Don't the statements "I expect Lombardi's" and " I am not unappreciative" completely contradict each other?

[RiverDog]

Don't the statements "I expect Lombardi's" and " I am not unappreciative" completely contradict each other?

Nope, not in my opinion. I can be very disappointed in the short term results, ie the past 2 seasons, but still be very appreciative of our overall success based on the past 15 or so years.

[HumanCockroach]

Appreciative people typically don't profess expectations of being the best with nothing else being adequate, but whatever works for you.

[RiverDog]

Appreciative people typically don't profess expectations of being the best with nothing else being adequate, but whatever works for you.

Think of it as the difference between short term and long term goals. One can be disappointed in one result but not the other.

[ACES 13]

Rams are upcoming now, nothing ahead but the sky!!! Seahawks in a down spiral of performance and infighting. The tussle will be between Ariens and Sean Payton (new Rams Coach)

You don't say? I don't suppose he can lure Greg Williams back can he?

[HumanCockroach]

Think of it as the difference between short term and long term goals. One can be disappointed in one result but not the other

.

Kind of a set yourself up for failure mentality? Got it.

[Hawktawk]

I always sort of subliminally root for the best but prepare for and expect the worst. That way pleasant outcomes are a nice surprise.
as an example I was sweating like a drug mule going through customs with Seattle up 36-8 in Superbowl 48.
I've never been able to completely shake the mental trauma of rooting for the "same old seahawks".
This year the team has looked like both, actually at times the past 2 years.

Hopefully the new brand of Hawks shows up the next 4 games and we can come in here and sing Kumbaya.

[obiken]

Nope, not in my opinion. I can be very disappointed in the short term results, ie the past 2 seasons, but still be very appreciative of our overall success based on the past 15 or so years.

I agree River, I love the Hawks, but belief and hope are different. HOW can I believe in this OL that cannot block. They cannot pass block, and really cannot run block. In fact the running game is SO bad, Chuck Powell of KJR feels they should just give up on it. IF we go to the SB it will be because RW can make plays, and someone can step up on the Defense.

[RiverDog]

I always sort of subliminally root for the best but prepare for and expect the worst. That way pleasant outcomes are a nice surprise.

That's a good way of putting it. I do the same, and for the same reasons as you do except that I'll add that if we lose, I'm not nearly as depressed if it was somewhat expected.