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Next Giants GM is going to have a salary cap mess!

PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 3:44 pm
by mykc14
Man two huge overpays by the Giants on D! Jenkins getting 12 mil/yr. and Vernon getting 5 year 85 mil!! LOL! Of course much comes down to how the contracts are structured but they are paying Vernon like Watt. Just crazy. Michael Bennett has to be shaking his head!

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 4:19 pm
by burrrton
You hit on what pisses me off about this- assuming they are overpaying (I don't really hold an opinion, but you're not the first I've seen say they are), it's going to make Bennett that much less satisfied with whatever we offer him and/or make it that much more difficult to get him in camp.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2016 4:36 pm
by kalibane
They also signed Janoris Jenkins. Weird strategy. They aren't winning a Super Bowl. Killing their future.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 8:33 am
by mykc14
burrrton wrote:You hit on what pisses me off about this- assuming they are overpaying (I don't really hold an opinion, but you're not the first I've seen say they are), it's going to make Bennett that much less satisfied with whatever we offer him and/or make it that much more difficult to get him in camp.


I don't think it's a stretch to say they overpaid for Vernon, he got the same amount of guaranteed money as JJ Watt and had all of 7.5 sacks last year. The same with Jenkins, getting paid like a top CB. Same thing with maxwell last year. All over paid. What pisses you off about that?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:35 pm
by burrrton
mykc14 wrote:I don't think it's a stretch to say they overpaid for Vernon, he got the same amount of guaranteed money as JJ Watt and had all of 7.5 sacks last year. The same with Jenkins, getting paid like a top CB. Same thing with maxwell last year. All over paid. What pisses you off about that?


Huh?

burrrton wrote:...it's going to make Bennett that much less satisfied with whatever we offer him and/or make it that much more difficult to get him in camp.


Kinda clumsily worded, but isn't my thought clear? I wish these desperate teams would quit lighting money on fire because then every FA is going to think they're worth more than they probably are, making it harder on my team, who isn't so reckless (a few obvious examples to the contrary notwithstanding).

I'm not pissed at you- I'm pissed that other teams' spending like drunk sailors artificially inflates the market.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 12:42 pm
by HumanCockroach
And here I thought you were for supply and demand Burton, this is a perfect example of it.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:02 pm
by mykc14
Burrton- I read you now and clear now. I thought you were saying that assuming they were overpaying pissed you off. So basically I agree with everything your saying.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:50 pm
by burrrton
mykc14 wrote:Burrton- I read you now and clear now. I thought you were saying that assuming they were overpaying pissed you off. So basically I agree with everything your saying.


Thought so- that's why I was puzzled. Clear now, though!

Re: Next Giants GM is going to have a salary cap mess!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 1:53 pm
by burrrton
HumanCockroach wrote:And here I thought you were for supply and demand Burton, this is a perfect example of it.


Well, it's a distorted market (they have to spend a certain amount every year, etc), but I broadly agree with you. All I'm saying is I wish supply was higher or demand was lower since it would help my team.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 2:21 pm
by HumanCockroach
Fair enough, though personally I feel that same thing could be said about all markets across the board in regards to "helping my team" lol.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 5:20 pm
by burrrton
HumanCockroach wrote:Fair enough, though personally I feel that same thing could be said about all markets across the board in regards to "helping my team" lol.


Honestly, I can't decipher what you're saying there. Care to explain, or is it just a passing comment?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 10, 2016 6:28 pm
by HumanCockroach
Just a passing comment. No big deal. Just saying I wish there was "more affordable" supply for "my team" in other area's of commerce as well ( my family, friends etc). Just a blurb about how we don't always get what we want..