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Looks like Cousins is going to be the Redskins starter. So now the guessing game begins. Where will RG3 wind up?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/rg3-s-pote ... 36909.html

Kinda sad to see it going like this. Oh well...

RiverDog wrote:Looks like Cousins is going to be the Redskins starter. So now the guessing game begins. Where will RG3 wind up?

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/rg3-s-pote ... 36909.html

Peter King thinks here with the Seahawks: http://sea.247sports.com/Bolt/SIs-Peter ... I-39074591

When I first read the article, I expected to see us as one of the better 'fits'. But I really doubt that we'll so much as take a flier as we're not going to be able to afford him.

Chalk up another move by that moonbat Dan Snyder. He has to be one of the worst owners in the league.

I think Snyder now is the worst owner. He gave away two future #1 picks and traded their own to trade up to the 2nd. pick in the draft for RG3. He had a coach who preferred drop back QB's and tried to convert RG3 into one. Then he leaves him on the field when he is hurt. Then Snyder hires Gruden who hates RG3.

I don't know if Griffen will ever have much of a career, but I hope he lands in a good place. I would have said Philly before they got Bradford. But can Bradford plat an entire season without getting hurt??

RGH3 is a perfect fit when the enevitable happens and our OL lets Wilson get hit, sorry to have to say it.

Seahawks4Ever wrote:I think Snyder now is the worst owner. He gave away two future #1 picks and traded their own to trade up to the 2nd. pick in the draft for RG3. He had a coach who preferred drop back QB's and tried to convert RG3 into one. Then he leaves him on the field when he is hurt. Then Snyder hires Gruden who hates RG3.

I don't know if Griffen will ever have much of a career, but I hope he lands in a good place. I would have said Philly before they got Bradford. But can Bradford plat an entire season without getting hurt??

The article makes a great point, notes Philly's love affair with Sam Bradford and how they tried to get him to sign on to a long term deal, yet Bradford refused, so apparently Bradford thinks he can put his injury problems behind him if he's willing to bet on himself and if Philly likes him that much to try to sign him, they must already have long range plans for him.

Ah...Peter King.

I'm reminded, again, what complete crap this guy writes.

Seriously, there is no way that RGIII ends up here.

Some other team will give him a shot to start in the future, and he's too young to be standing around holding a clipboard to begin with.

Coming to Seattle makes zero sense on every level imaginable.

And I completely agree with MRob when he tweets that he'd be a Terrible fit in the locker room.

Old but Slow wrote:He's had, what 3 knee surgeries? The commentary I've heard is that he has lost more than a step, so his escapability is compromised, and that is what made him special. In addition, he seems to have a fragile ego, so it may be difficult for him to accept a bench role.

I say, no way.

Don't sweat it, my friend. Even if we wanted him, we wouldn't be able to afford the salary he's going to command. They'll be someone else looking to catch lightning in a bottle that will snap him up long before he makes it out our way.

The ROY pick is looking even more ridiculous now. Griffin is totally lost.
Sure some coach and GM will take a flyer on this guy but buyer beware. He is a coach killer and locker room cancer as the multiple reports from relieved redskins players cheering the promotion of Cousins clearly shows..

Peter King thinks here with the Seahawks: http://sea.247sports.com/Bolt/SIs-Peter ... I-39074591

Please no.

Not even back-up material. Even when he's "healthy," he looks like he's playing hurt. I'd rather have Colt McCoy as a back-up. I'm listening to the sports-talk out here in Virginia (used to be Redskins territory, but largely taken over by Steelers fans), and I'm astounded by the amount of crying about this. I got it ... maybe it wasn't the best system for him to flourish in, but the Skins ran him into the ground his rookie season and he has never looked the same since. How is it that three years after that, people think "he just needs another chance?" When I watch him play, it's hard to, because he runs with a gimp and I'm half expecting him to pull a Joe Theisman at any moment ... with bones and blood and all the gook! A good back-up should be able to get a win 40-50% of the time, and I don't think RGIII is capable of that anymore. He simply isn't in the shape to do it. With God's help anything is possible, so I'm not saying its impossible ... but I just don't see it outside of some miracle. There are plenty other places I'd be looking first for a back-up.

And why be sorry about this? Might be tough for RGIII, but it's great for Kirk Cousins! And yeah ... Kirk Cousins seems like a "good guy" too!

Good guy: sure. Great rookie season: you bet. Outsanding College All-Star deserving of the Heisman: without a doubt. But those are poor reasons to bring in a guy who just isn't performing, and hasn't been for quite some time. Maybe if he had some kind of spark ... but all I see are old, beaten bones and rolling ankles when he scrambles from the pocket.

GO SEAHAWKS!!!

If I remember correctly, in their Rookie year, RGIII was trying to make a move away from Irvin, when he went down... we were being slaughtered by the 'Skins up to that point. Couldn't stop RGIII or Alfred Morris that day, until Kirk Cousins came in and gave us the game.

Was RGIII a bad draft choice up to that point that day? Was anyone (including all Seahawk fans) discussing what a 'bad owner' Snyder is/was because of the trade up to get RGIII?

Not hardly. You can sure blame Snyder for a lot of things, but not this. You just can't hold him or the team responsible because they can't see the future or that they should of known his style would be injury prone. If anyone is to blame, it was their Coach.

If anything right now, Snyder should gag the wife of the GM. Wow. Stick a fork in McCloughan (sp?)... Now we know who the drinker is in that family.

jshawaii22 wrote:If I remember correctly, in their Rookie year, RGIII was trying to make a move away from Irvin, when he went down... we were being slaughtered by the 'Skins up to that point. Couldn't stop RGIII or Alfred Morris that day, until Kirk Cousins came in and gave us the game.

Was RGIII a bad draft choice up to that point that day? Was anyone (including all Seahawk fans) discussing what a 'bad owner' Snyder is/was because of the trade up to get RGIII?

Not hardly. You can sure blame Snyder for a lot of things, but not this. You just can't hold him or the team responsible because they can't see the future or that they should of known his style would be injury prone. If anyone is to blame, it was their Coach.

If anything right now, Snyder should gag the wife of the GM. Wow. Stick a fork in McCullough (sp?)... Now we know who the drinker is in that family.

It seems that Scot leaving for personal or family reasons wasn't about him after all. I thought he was the one with the problem, too.
At least that's my guess on that subject.

She would be a leader of the WAGS of the NFL... but you really gotta love the comment. "BJ" and sent to your kids, too!

js

What about Seattle, IF he would agree to be a backup. He could heal and exercise all his demons, learn to be more of a pocket passer, and not have to prove anything.

jshawaii22 wrote:If I remember correctly, in their Rookie year, RGIII was trying to make a move away from Irvin, when he went down... we were being slaughtered by the 'Skins up to that point. Couldn't stop RGIII or Alfred Morris that day, until Kirk Cousins came in and gave us the game.

Was RGIII a bad draft choice up to that point that day? Was anyone (including all Seahawk fans) discussing what a 'bad owner' Snyder is/was because of the trade up to get RGIII?

Not hardly. You can sure blame Snyder for a lot of things, but not this. You just can't hold him or the team responsible because they can't see the future or that they should of known his style would be injury prone. If anyone is to blame, it was their Coach.

If anything right now, Snyder should gag the wife of the GM. Wow. Stick a fork in McCloughan (sp?)... Now we know who the drinker is in that family.

Snyder's made a number of bone head decisions/actions prior to the RG3 saga. Signing Fat Albert Haynesworth to an ungodly obscene contract was one, the handling of the Jim Zorn situation being another (remember when he stripped Zorn of his play calling duties?).

I had the opportunity to strike up a good conversation with a diehard Redskins fan when I was in Las Vegas last year. He was wearing Washington Nationals gear even though he was rooting passionately for the Skins, because he wasn't going to give one more dime to to that MFing Dan Snyder. Made me laugh.

jshawaii22 wrote:If I remember correctly, in their Rookie year, RGIII was trying to make a move away from Irvin, when he went down... we were being slaughtered by the 'Skins up to that point. Couldn't stop RGIII or Alfred Morris that day, until Kirk Cousins came in and gave us the game.

I would say you don't remember correctly. In that game the Hawks were actually ahead when RGIII went down, so we weren't being slaughtered. Couldn't stop RGII? He had 80 total passing yards (he got hurt mid-way through the 4th quarter) 2 TD's and 2 Turnovers and 20 Rushing yards. Wilson on the other hand had 190 yards passing, 70 yards rushing and 1 TD with no TO's. Alfred Morris: 80 total yards 0 TD's and Lynch 140 total yards and 1 TD. I know your intent wasn't to compare those guys but I am just saying RGIII wasn't having a stellar game by any stretch of the imagination before he got hurt. He had a good 1st quarter but didn't do much after that.

I know we were behind 14-0 when he first got hurt. I will admit I had to go back and look and we were only behind 14-13 at the half. Seemed like a lot more, but I remember we couldn't stop him while he was mobile.

You have to wonder, why did Shanahan leave Griffin when he was so obviously hurt?

I remember that off season, Griffin had been operated by the same surgeon who had so successfully repaired AD's knee. He almost set the single season rushing record. It seemed that no one wanted to admit that no two knee injuries were the same.

I remember RG3 was itching to get back on the field and Shanahan kept him out all during the pre-season then went ahead and started him in the opener.

I was shocked that Shanahan had caved in to Griffin's lobbying efforts to play. I was also shocked that Shanahan would play Griffin when he had so little preparation for the season. After keeping him out of action during the pre-season I had expected him to work him in at practice during the week while starting Cousins and then maybe Griffin starting to play and/or start after mid season or possibly their bye.

But, Shanahan threw Griffin to the wolves, I always thought he did that because Griffin had gone over his head directly to Dan Snyder telling Snyder that he was ready to play. He was not ready, and it showed. Then Griffin started complaining about the plays the OC was calling, the OC being Shanahan's son. It all came to a head after the season and Mike Shanahan lost his job and RG3 was hurt again.

I have to put the blame squarely on Griffin who lobbied Snyder about playing before he was ready.

Shanahan bears responsibility for not pulling him from that play off game and for very poor communication efforts with Griffin that off season into the pre-season. He should have been talking to Griffin letting him know what his plans for him was.

Snyder should have let his head coach coach instead of getting involved on the side of the player.

Yes, RG3 is hard to watch anymore, he plays really tentative and not "loose" like we see in Russell Wilson.

jshawaii22 wrote:I know we were behind 14-0 when he first got hurt. I will admit I had to go back and look and we were only behind 14-13 at the half. Seemed like a lot more, but I remember we couldn't stop him while he was mobile.

I don't remember him ever being that mobile during the game. There were major questions about his health prior to the game as he was obviously limited in their previous week's matchup against the Cowboys. Shanahan yielded to RG3's threatening demand to be left in the game when it was obvious to everyone that he was doing himself and his team no good by continuing to play. Griffin only threw for 84 yards, ran for 21, including a 10 yarder in the 4th quarter where it looked like he was competing at the Special Olympics. He was not at any point in that game a major threat either running or passing. It ignited a major debate within their fan base, with many arguing that he should have been sat much earlier in lieu of Cousins, who had played well during RG3's absence.

He should go to the Texans. They need a QB badly. Bill O'Brien was a former QB coach and it will bring RGIII back home.

kalibane wrote:He should go to the Texans. They need a QB badly. Bill O'Brien was a former QB coach and it will bring RGIII back home.

He could end up in Texas, alright...Dallas, Texas, that is. One of the rumors is that Jerry Jones is very enamored with RG3.

But the most natural fit is the Eagles.

jshawaii22 wrote: You can sure blame Snyder for a lot of things, but not this. You just can't hold him or the team responsible because they can't see the future or that they should of known his style would be injury prone.

Then again, Snyder should be held responsible for the worst playing surface in the NFL, which absolutely contributed to the injury.

Seahawks4Ever wrote:You have to wonder, why did Shanahan leave Griffin when he was so obviously hurt?

I remember that off season, Griffin had been operated by the same surgeon who had so successfully repaired AD's knee. He almost set the single season rushing record. It seemed that no one wanted to admit that no two knee injuries were the same.

I remember RG3 was itching to get back on the field and Shanahan kept him out all during the pre-season then went ahead and started him in the opener.

I was shocked that Shanahan had caved in to Griffin's lobbying efforts to play. I was also shocked that Shanahan would play Griffin when he had so little preparation for the season. After keeping him out of action during the pre-season I had expected him to work him in at practice during the week while starting Cousins and then maybe Griffin starting to play and/or start after mid season or possibly their bye.

But, Shanahan threw Griffin to the wolves, I always thought he did that because Griffin had gone over his head directly to Dan Snyder telling Snyder that he was ready to play. He was not ready, and it showed. Then Griffin started complaining about the plays the OC was calling, the OC being Shanahan's son. It all came to a head after the season and Mike Shanahan lost his job and RG3 was hurt again.

I have to put the blame squarely on Griffin who lobbied Snyder about playing before he was ready.

Shanahan bears responsibility for not pulling him from that play off game and for very poor communication efforts with Griffin that off season into the pre-season. He should have been talking to Griffin letting him know what his plans for him was.

Snyder should have let his head coach coach instead of getting involved on the side of the player.

Yes, RG3 is hard to watch anymore, he plays really tentative and not "loose" like we see in Russell Wilson.

Seahawks4Ever, You nailed it.

GO SEAHAWKS!!!

Robert Griffin is a complete head case. He refuses to shoulder blame for mistakes, blames teammates and as recently as a few weeks ago called himself the best QB in the league before being forced to clarify his statements.Hes living in fantasy land His fatal flaws as a leader are not his coaches fault.
Have the Skins been mismanaged in general and perhaps Griffin individually? of course. Would it have made a big difference for RGIII if they were not? Who knows, I dont think so. I'm not sold on Griffin at all. Mrob said he wouldnt fit in a Seattle locker room and thats all you need to know.

Oly wrote:Then again, Snyder should be held responsible for the worst playing surface in the NFL, which absolutely contributed to the injury.

Good point. My understanding is that Snyder was bringing every dog and pony show in the country to squeeze as much money out of his facility as possible. I don't know why in the heck the union doesn't get involved when working conditions such as those that existed when RG3 got hurt. That's a natural function for most labor unions.

Peter King...LOL ..bloviating wind bag with finger on the pulse....