Matthews fined for hit on Wilson

[Anthony]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/st ... e-seahawks

22,050.00

[burrrton]

Good. Cheap shot mthrfckr.

[jshawaii22]

In typical NFL style... trying to kill the opposing QB = $22,500.00. Grabbing your junk on a TD = $20k... Way to show you care NFL.

By the way, Swezy got fined for the 'not late, but it was' hit later in the game. $8k

js

[Distant Relative]

Should have been ejected from the game. In college he would have been IMO for targeting. I think the NFL needs to look at this and make it a rule. I understand that once the QB is Past the line of scrimmage he is considered a RB but cheap head shots are inexcusable. We could have lost Wilson for a considerable amount of time with that hit. I still say RW was a bit foggy for a while after that hit not to mention the way he landed on his knee. RW is a tough son of a gun!

Clay Matthews went after him several times in that game. I was proud of Sweezy for hitting Mathews on the ground even though it was a penalty that didn't cost the Hawks any yard due to GB declining it.

Clay, your hair looks stupid, your over rated and a piece of Chit you Punk!

[Hawktawk]

Matthews is a roid freak who went from 208 and slow as a college freshman to a first round pick. He is a serial cheap shotter who prefers to target QBs. I loved what Sweezy did to the punk and I gained even more respect for RW when he got up from that shot and finished the game. We might be having a very different conversation had he been seriously injured.

[HumanCockroach]

Should have been accompanied by a suspension IMHO, this isn't the first time he has felt it was OK to take blatant cheap shots on QB's, and did so just the week before ( on Romo's knees) along with a nasty, cheap dirty shot on Kaepernick ( clothesline tackle) and those are just the ones that come immediately to mind, of a player that I really have seldom watched in GB... Seems like everytime I do watch a game, at least one of those cheap shots occurs, he always says " I wasn't intentionally doing it" afterwards, but that is little to no different IMO than Suh saying his feet were numb, or that he was off ballance and that is why he stomped on Dietrichs arm. Just don't buy a damn thing the sleeze is selling.

[RiverDog]

In typical NFL style... trying to kill the opposing QB = $22,500.00. Grabbing your junk on a TD = $20k... Way to show you care NFL.

By the way, Swezy got fined for the 'not late, but it was' hit later in the game. $8k

js

No. This one is more hideous. Trying to kill the opposing QB $22.5K. Keeping your cake hole closed $100K.

It should be a suspension level hit, equivalent to James Harrison's hit on Colt McCoy. They also should have the ability through replay to eject players for the remainder of the game. I'd have to watch it again, but I don't think that Russell was even in position to make the tackle when Mathews unloaded on him.

[Hawk Sista]

GOOD! he deserved a fine. His BS excuse was just that - as many of you have pointed out.

Watching the clip that rolled over (AGAIN) to the Josh Sitton clip where he goes on and on about being the better team makes me puke all over again. Seriously, had the Hawks been up 19-7 with 3 minutes to go and Aaron the God Rodgers comes roaring back - it would have been an epic comeback of the ages. Instead, we get the epic GB collapse. As long as the media keeps repeating that, the better our boys will do.

[burrrton]

Watching the clip that rolled over (AGAIN) to the Josh Sitton clip where he goes on and on about being the better team makes me puke all over again.

"SURE we lost every phase of the game except 'balls bounced off of receivers' hands', but man we did good for 3 quarters!"

[Zorn76]

Good to see, and well deserved.

The guy is a great player, but it's too bad he feels compelled to undermine his solid play with cheap shots that are becoming all too routine.

[obiken]

I agree, no reason for that kind of shot except he thought he could get away with it.

[jshawaii22]

Matthews is a roid freak who went from 208 and slow as a college freshman to a first round pick. He is a serial cheap shotter who prefers to target QBs. I loved what Sweezy did to the punk and I gained even more respect for RW when he got up from that shot and finished the game. We might be having a very different conversation had he been seriously injured.

You know who his coach was in college? Pete

[RiverDog]

]Matthews is a roid freak who went from 208 and slow as a college freshman to a first round pick.

You know who his coach was in college? Pete

Brian Cushing played for Pete at USC and he got busted for PED's early in his career, and of course, we all remember the issues the Hawks had with PED's.

Ahh, I remember all the arguments I had with ASF over Pete and his "piano player in the whorehouse" management style. I've backed off it quite a bit as obviously Pete's been very successful with his particular style, but I still haven't changed my opinion that this style of his can still bite him/us in the butt from time to time, the most obvious of which is the rate at which we draw penalties.

[c_hawkbob]

"Piano player in the whorehouse" may be the single worst analogy I've ever read, be it football related or otherwise. It's a cutsie, outdated saying that just doesn't stand up to even the most cursory investigation.

"Piano player in the whorehouse" indicates someone just along for the ride, having no control and little interest in what goes on around him. Pete is in complete control of everything he sees as important to a winning football program. In the case of PEDs, if he is less stringent on players personal responsibilities it's because his philosophy is to get players in the first place that are capable of holding themselves responsible. If they can't, they just won't last long.

As to penalties, while not unimportant, he obviously believes that there are other aspects to maintaining a winning program that are more important. It may well be that the emphasis he puts on penalties could change is they start costing us games, but as young as he likes to keep his team, and as willing as he is to let inexperienced players play, we're likely to remain one of the more penalized programs. I know you're going to say that many of our penalties come from our more experienced players and that may well be true, but until we have players that get fewer penalties and can outperform those guys, those players will still play. (No, I'm not saying that there is a balance between penalties and winning as a team, but on an individual basis; it is what it is).

Pete is the opposite of a "piano player in the whorehouse", he's intensely involved with this team. He just has different priorities than you may be used to.

[RiverDog]

"Piano player in the whorehouse" may be the single worst analogy I've ever read, be it football related or otherwise. It's a cutsie, outdated saying that just doesn't stand up to even the most cursory investigation.

"Piano player in the whorehouse" indicates someone just along for the ride, having no control and little interest in what goes on around him. Pete is in complete control of everything he sees as important to a winning football program. In the case of PEDs, if he is less stringent on players personal responsibilities it's because his philosophy is to get players in the first place that are capable of holding themselves responsible. If they can't, they just won't last long.

As to penalties, while not unimportant, he obviously believes that there are other aspects to maintaining a winning program that are more important. It may well be that the emphasis he puts on penalties could change is they start costing us games, but as young as he likes to keep his team, and as willing as he is to let inexperienced players play, we're likely to remain one of the more penalized programs. I know you're going to say that many of our penalties come from our more experienced players and that may well be true, but until we have players that get fewer penalties and can outperform those guys, those players will still play. (No, I'm not saying that there is a balance between penalties and winning as a team, but on an individual basis; it is what it is).

Pete is the opposite of a "piano player in the whorehouse", he's intensely involved with this team. He just has different priorities than you may be used to.

Ahh, I thought dusting of an old analogy might awake some bear out of hibernation. As I recall, it wasn't a real popular term when I first applied it some 6 years ago.

I used the analogy to describe Pete's role in the USC scandal, where apparently without his knowledge he had a player from the hood raking in $300,000, posed in the locker room for no questions asked pictures with his star player and middle aged loan sharks, allowed free and easy access by everyone and anyone to his players, practices, locker rooms, and game day sidelines, and then when the report came out and sanctions announced he was shocked...SHOCKED!.. that so much went on without his knowledge.

If you don't like the analogy, that's fine with me. Perhaps you have a more appropriate one that better illustrates his ignorance in the situation described above. Perhaps a picture of Sgt. Schultz with a caption that reads "I see nothing, nothing!"? The whole point being that if all that can go on under his nose, it shouldn't be too surprising that a few PED's could fit under there, too.

But that's all water WAYYYY under the bridge. I've long since jumped on Pete's bandwagon, admitted to my misjudgments of him and am willing to do so again, made numerous statements in support of him and expressed my admiration and appreciation for all he has given us. He can coach my Seahawks for as long as he wants and I'll be out there waving my 12th man flag..if I ever get over this injury I sustained while trying to wave it.

[HumanCockroach]

I think its slightly foolish to say PC has had a "few PED violations slip under his nose" because of what transpired at USC considering multiple ( almost all) teams have dealt with this since Carroll has been in Seattle, and Seattle isn't leading the way in that regard... The NYG lead the league currently, are you saying Coughlin is even MORE lax than Carroll in monitoring his team? Not the perception of him as a coach. Ultimately, SEVERAL of Carrolls infractions came from non starting frringe players attempting to either hold on, or compete for starting spots, NOT some team wide epidemic.

[Vegaseahawk]

RD,
I read Pete's book, "Win Forever". It opened my eyes to the reasoning why he does the things he does in coaching his team. I recommend you read the book.

[RiverDog]

RD,
I read Pete's book, "Win Forever". It opened my eyes to the reasoning why he does the things he does in coaching his team. I recommend you read the book.

Yes, some day I might.

But just so there is no mistake, I have long since accepted Pete's way of doing things as being a superior method by which to run an NFL team. I'm results orientated, and his results are off the charts. Even the penalty issue, which is clearly endemic to Pete Carroll-coached teams, is something that even though I will continue to b**** about, is an attribute that I've come to accept as a necessary evil.

[Distant Relative]

Gawd Dang It! The Seahawks are going to the Super Bowl for the second time in as many years and for the 3rd time in 10 years.

Not calling anyone out on this thread or the board in General....... Just a reminder of where "OUR" team is now and where it has been. Lets relish this and remember it for what it is.

GO HAWKS!

[Agent 86]

From a 'Hawks fan point of view, it was a predatory hit with full intention of injury and possibly putting RW3 out of the game. Probably the only chance to hit a QB in that fashion. 15 yards didn't do it justice. Not the first time Matthews has attempted a cheap hit to a QB. When I saw the replay, I was outraged.

From a Packer point a view, it was well worth the 15 yards to attempt to put RW3 out of the game. I would have probably loved the hit and applauded Matthews for attempting it. Why not give yourself a better chance to win?

From a neutral fan point of view, I would have thought the hit was too extreme, the intent to injure was obvious. Would not have liked it, but would understand why Matthews did it. Would have fallen to the side of the fence of a cheapshot hit.

I would expect something to be said and done about it next year when we play GB. First person I would be going to is Rodgers, and telling him his linebacker just made him a target for whatever cheapshot comes about. You don't target Matthews, you target Rodgers and make Matthews aware of it and why. I'm the type of fan that encourages a little revenge, and would love to see Rodgers arrogant a** hammered to the ground.

[HumanCockroach]

Gawd Dang It! The Seahawks are going to the Super Bowl for the second time in as many years and for the 3rd time in 10 years.

Not calling anyone out on this thread or the board in General....... Just a reminder of where "OUR" team is now and where it has been. Lets relish this and remember it for what it is.

GO HAWKS!

Completely were I am at, how many decades have some of us suffered through Stan Gelbaughs, bad bounces, misfortune, bad calls etc.

Enjoy these moments to there fullest, eventually, the worm turns ( though hopefully not for at least a decade or so) and I'm so happy and priviledged to have been through it all..

GO HAWKS!

[Seahawks4Ever]

One thing I noticed in the first game of the season is that Clay Matthews likes to grab a player by his head in order to tackle him. I couldn't believe he wasn't being flagged. Sure, it wasn't a "horse collar" and he wasn't striking the players head so I guess he was "skirting" the rules but come on. putting an opponent in to a head lock and then throwing them to the ground is going to break some ones neck some day. The league keeps saying that they worry about player safety, then allow CM to hurt opposing players with impunity.

Oh, the NFL worries about kids seeing Lynch grabbing his nuptials and emulating him, well, what will they say if school kids playing football start emulating CM by tackling by grabbing their head??

[Hawktawk]

Sorry I didn't mean to inflame old accusations against Carroll regarding PEDs. Whatever else can be said about PC he isn't handing out pills or popping syringes in anyone. These things are player driven to get to and stay in the show.I think its naive to think it doesn't go on quite a bit all over the league and the NCAA.
My comment was based on the well documented suspicion of PED use by Matthews and Cushing who both made dramatic gains in strength and speed over a brief period of time.
Matthews has reminded me somewhat of Brian Bosworth, an explosive player with a history of injuries and suspicions of drug use. Obviously Boz was out of the league much quicker.But both are loud mouthed self aggrandizing players who like hitting people in the head, although I never remember the Boz as being intentionally dirty. Matthews is just a dirty rotten SOB.