Rams Game

[c_hawkbob]

That f****ing no call cost us any chance at the game and the season. Don't blame Dallas a bit for losing it.

[Hawktawk]

That f****ing no call cost us any chance at the game and the season. Don't blame Dallas a bit for losing it.

It was a bad no call for sure but our offense scored 10 points . We had 2 first downs for most of the first half . Wilson was launching 50 yard hail Mary’s the entire second half in spite of a pretty decent run game and not accurate much of the time . I don’t recognize him anymore sometimes . Geno put as many points on that defense at full strength in the 4th quarter as Russ did in 4 quarters this afternoon .That’s not Geno worship. It’s a fact.

Between the 3 quarters of the first game and this one Russ has scored 17 points on the Rams in 7 quarters this year . Our offense sucks , Russ sucks vs good defenses. That’s why we lost . Are we gonna do this another half decade or do a reset .

[Stream Hawk]

1. Blatant no call PI.
2. Russell Only goes for the home runs and he is off on those. Does not go for the underneath.
3. Third OC in four years? Pattern.

Heads will now begin to roll. What a run!

[EmeraldBullet]

Dallas kicking the ball summarizes our season this year

[Aseahawkfan]

Man, we suck.

[Hawk Sista]

While there were surely elements of some BS (wait for the rams, not the Hawks re Covid, less than great officiating, etc.), the Hawks had (& have had) their chance(s) tonight & all season long). Reasonable people can disagree on the root cause. Surely RW ain’t himself and hasn’t been since mid year last year. The finger didn’t help, but he’s clearly off/unhappy/whatever. Misses on draft picks, dumb trades, not addressing the trenches, etc. I’m super bummed.

Nail secured in coffin.

[trents]

Honestly, the game went about as I expected with all the missing pieces Seattle had to contend with because of COVID and because of moving the game to a time slot that gave the RAMs opportunity to get their COVID struck players back on the field for the most part. Hawks' defense kept them in the game with another strong effort. D seems to have righted their ship. Offense still taking on water.

[I-5]

From rescheduling the game, to the refs extending Rams drives with 2 ticky tack calls on Austin, and the final awful non-call…it’s crystal clear someone wants one team to win.

Our offense played poorly, but the refs overshadowed even that. Kudos to the defense and to Kupp on the Rams side.

This game was the most lopsided refereed of the year. Embarrassing.

[Hawktawk]

I called that when I heard the game was being moved . Clearly there was a bias . But when you are a 5-8 dog meat team playing the elite Rams with their 5 billion stadium and all those stars what do you expect . I feel like clawing my eyes out every time our offense is on the field . It’s just brutal . I’m not gonna blame the refs at this point . In 2012 the Ravens win the SB leading the league in penalties and in 2013 the Hawks did the same . Last night our defense played like the LOB most of the night . But our offense was ridiculous most of the night once again especially vs the Rams . The QB regressed badly , either a setback with the hand or just Ramaphobia or a combination of both . Lost in the mayhem last night was the broadcaster saying last night was the first time Russ has been able to do a full pre game warmup since the injury . After being back 5 weeks ? Now 6 with a record of 2-4 in the games despite the # 5 scoring defense in the league over that stretch . RIP to the PC, RW Hawks . It was a great amazing ride . It’s so over . Blow it up .

[RiverDog]

That f****ing no call cost us any chance at the game and the season. Don't blame Dallas a bit for losing it.

It was a bad no call for sure but our offense scored 10 points . We had 2 first downs for most of the first half . Wilson was launching 50 yard hail Mary’s the entire second half in spite of a pretty decent run game and not accurate much of the time . I don’t recognize him anymore sometimes . Geno put as many points on that defense at full strength in the 4th quarter as Russ did in 4 quarters this afternoon .That’s not Geno worship. It’s a fact.

Between the 3 quarters of the first game and this one Russ has scored 17 points on the Rams in 7 quarters this year . Our offense sucks , Russ sucks vs good defenses. That’s why we lost . Are we gonna do this another half decade or do a reset .

I'm with Hawktalk. There's no doubt that it was a horrible no call, looked a lot like the Rams-Saints playoff game no call that precipitated the PI review rule, but no way having a first down on the 25 or so and down by 7 with around 4 minutes would have assured us of a win. You're assuming that we would have scored a TD then kept the Rams from getting into FG range just to get it into OT.

The season was lost once we went to 3-8, arguably earlier than that. The no-call PI wouldn't have made it into the obituary. Even had we won last night, our odds of making the playoffs still would have been 1 in 20.

[NorthHawk]

A couple of bad calls that went against us. But like RD said we were 3-8 this year at one point so it would have been pretty miraculous if we ended with a winning season.
It's not the way to end all hope though and I don't blame Dallas for his reaction.
It's a reinforced reason for having a member of the Officiating crew in a booth to overturn non penalties and to enforce obvious penalties. It's especially important now
that gambling revenue is on the line. There are going to be some people that are going to question whether Referees in some games are on the take. If that turns out
to be a significant theme then things are going to change. As it is, it was essentially a meaningless game for Seattle, but the point spread was definitely affected and
maybe even a win by Seattle as we don't know what might have happened if there were proper Defensive interference calls made.
The NFL has to clean up the blatant mistakes somehow, some way.

[tarlhawk]

From rescheduling the game, to the refs extending Rams drives with 2 ticky tack calls on Austin, and the final awful non-call…it’s crystal clear someone wants one team to win.

Our offense played poorly, but the refs overshadowed even that. Kudos to the defense and to Kupp on the Rams side.

This game was the most lopsided refereed of the year. Embarrassing.

The game itself became embarrassing...but it was more embarrassing for the NFL. The last two years I have been trying to get my wife onboard as a more enlightened fan...but she has seen numerous examples from games we watched together that she questions my emotional attachment to an NFL spoiled by doubts and suspicion for its own integrity.

I told her I was ignoring some of the more obvious calls in games I've seen beside our own. Like PC after the game he said the refs calls usually balance out and as a HC perhaps he can't honestly express his concerns. When the announcers themselves question the calls and their ex-referee analyst questions the more thinly veiled calls...it causes doubts I find harder to ignore for my own enjoyment. I would be more accepting when these mystery calls happen during 1rst or 2nd down...but critical 3rd downs and some very late flags...these steal momentum and become common enough I can't feel the exhilaration of a good play until I quickly look on screen to see if a flag was thrown.

This not only dramatically affects a team and its momentum...but steals some of the joy from watching a well played effort. My wife questions the rules of pass interference and what constitutes a legal catch since both call types are no longer visually obvious to casual viewers...let alone play commentators. In trying to explain early on what I felt the rules were...she pointed out that my own definitions must be flawed as she observed the many variations that now seem to exist. She isn't normally so cynical but she points out that legalized betting being allowed and endorsed is no doubt "helped" by the ambiguity of certain rules.

One game last year...fortunately I don't remember which one...had a catch ruled complete by a ref running behind the receiver only to be "over-turned" by a ref from the other side of the field on a late flag he threw. I kidded to her to stop giving me doubts for one of the few games I eagerly await for. She has bought me many jerseys and seems skeptical how I can like her gifts when the jersey's guy is traded or let go so often. She knew I was proud of my T.Lockett/J.Clowney/F.Clark jerseys...RW and Lockett are my only surviving jerseys of guys still on the team...and I have almost 15 different jerseys. She assures me I don't want to know what she paid to get them for me...each Christmas.

Gerald Everette was much more candid than PC when he responded disheartened about the refs making some mystery(my own word not his) calls while "missing" calls that seemed more obvious to him. I have not missed but two games since I started declaring myself a Seahawk fan to co-workers in 2010.

We moved here in the NW around 1984 and I watched games more because of the local coverage...and like many observers...the 2005 Super Bowl began the creeping guilt of ref over-involvement in the games outcome.

[Hawktawk]

Super bowl xl was the gold standard for Seattle getting hosed . Last night was so so. The no call on the PI was bad but it’s 4th down at midfield and we have been dreadful all night . In real time it happens quick , a clear foul but I think if the ref didn’t just miss it he wasn’t gonna bail out a bad team any more than an NBA official is gonna bail out a no name player going to the basket in the final seconds . Our offense scored 27 points against LA this year and 10 was Geno Smith in the 4th quarter . This version is over .

[c_hawkbob]

That f****ing no call cost us any chance at the game and the season. Don't blame Dallas a bit for losing it.

It was a bad no call for sure but our offense scored 10 points . We had 2 first downs for most of the first half . Wilson was launching 50 yard hail Mary’s the entire second half in spite of a pretty decent run game and not accurate much of the time . I don’t recognize him anymore sometimes . Geno put as many points on that defense at full strength in the 4th quarter as Russ did in 4 quarters this afternoon .That’s not Geno worship. It’s a fact.

Between the 3 quarters of the first game and this one Russ has scored 17 points on the Rams in 7 quarters this year . Our offense sucks , Russ sucks vs good defenses. That’s why we lost . Are we gonna do this another half decade or do a reset .

I'm with Hawktalk. There's no doubt that it was a horrible no call, looked a lot like the Rams-Saints playoff game no call that precipitated the PI review rule, but no way having a first down on the 25 or so and down by 7 with around 4 minutes would have assured us of a win. You're assuming that we would have scored a TD then kept the Rams from getting into FG range just to get it into OT.

The season was lost once we went to 3-8, arguably earlier than that. The no-call PI wouldn't have made it into the obituary. Even had we won last night, our odds of making the playoffs still would have been 1 in 20.

I didn't say that no-call cost us the game, I said it cost us the chance at winning the game and thereby continuing our not quite impossible quest to get to the playoffs this year.

Until that play we had a chance. After that play we did not. All I said, and still true.

What you said is true too, but if you quote me on your step up to your soap box, at least respond to what is actually said rather than your impressions of what I must have really meant.

[Hawktawk]

Good point Bob . And technically correct although the D could have gotten a stop . In the very end it was a team loss but I blame the offense for once again hanging the defense out to dry .

[RiverDog]

That f****ing no call cost us any chance at the game and the season. Don't blame Dallas a bit for losing it.

I'm with Hawktalk. There's no doubt that it was a horrible no call, looked a lot like the Rams-Saints playoff game no call that precipitated the PI review rule, but no way having a first down on the 25 or so and down by 7 with around 4 minutes would have assured us of a win. You're assuming that we would have scored a TD then kept the Rams from getting into FG range just to get it into OT.

The season was lost once we went to 3-8, arguably earlier than that. The no-call PI wouldn't have made it into the obituary. Even had we won last night, our odds of making the playoffs still would have been 1 in 20.

I didn't say that no-call cost us the game, I said it cost us the chance at winning the game and thereby continuing our not quite impossible quest to get to the playoffs this year.

Until that play we had a chance. After that play we did not. All I said, and still true.

What you said is true too, but if you quote me on your step up to your soap box, at least respond to what is actually said rather than your impressions of what I must have really meant.

Fair enough, and you have my apology. But the way you put it, "that effing no call" and your subsequent claim that it cost us the season when it clearly was nothing but a single factor in a huge number of other more significant events, led me to believe that you felt it cost us the game vs. simply a "chance", a term that I personally associate with an event with somewhat better than 2% odds.

[c_hawkbob]

Good point Bob . And technically correct although the D could have gotten a stop . In the very end it was a team loss but I blame the offense for once again hanging the defense out to dry .

While I agree that we were still likely to have lost the game, the defense had been stopping them all game. If we tie the game up on that drive I think we had a decent shot at OT. But even winning this game he had a minuscule at best chance at the post season.

But watching is more fun while there is still a chance. Even a little one. To have lost that chance to officiating sucks.

[RiverDog]

While I agree that we were still likely to have lost the game, the defense had been stopping them all game. If we tie the game up on that drive I think we had a decent shot at OT. But even winning this game he had a minuscule at best chance at the post season.

But watching is more fun while there is still a chance. Even a little one. To have lost that chance to officiating sucks.

Except for the "stopping them all game" part, I agree. They scored 20 points. Their two TD's were on drives of 88 and 86 yards.

[c_hawkbob]

and your subsequent claim that it cost us the season

Good lord ... there was no claim that it cost us the season!! The "any chance at" in my sentence applied to both the game and the season. It was NOT a subsequent and separate statement!

[RiverDog]

and your subsequent claim that it cost us the season

Good lord ... there was no claim that it cost us the season!! The "any chance at" in my sentence applied to both the game and the season. It was NOT a subsequent and separate statement!

Sorry, man, I'm not trying to antagonize you, and maybe I'm reading stuff into your remarks that weren't what you intended. But when you make statements like the (our) defense had been stopping them all game when in reality the Rams had 20 first downs, outgained us by a 3-2 margin, and had the ball for 10 more minutes, it's a mistaken assumption that's easy to make.

[c_hawkbob]

It's what I said, you prefer to respond to your impression of what someone says rather than what they actually say. It's just easier. It's also lazy.

[NorthHawk]

That holding call on 3rd down directly resulted in a Rams TD.
So it could be said that the Hawks D held them to less than 20 pts. or at least they had a good chance to not allow that much.
And that could have resulted in points for the Hawks after the punt. Considering our poor Offensive output, I wouldn't have
put money on it, but strange things happen in NFL games.

[Hawktawk]

Sorry, man, I'm not trying to antagonize you, and maybe I'm reading stuff into your remarks that weren't what you intended. But when you make statements like the (our) defense had been stopping them all game when in reality the Rams had 20 first downs, outgained us by a 3-2 margin, and had the ball for 10 more minutes, it's a mistaken assumption that's easy to make.

Again its just a circular argument with no right answer. I know our D was going up against the #4 scoring offense, #1 in yards per play, top 4 in every category offensively. They held them to 3 points for the better part of 3 quarters. Kind of like Green Bay. They turned Stafford over as Diggs is a brilliant safety. Meanwhile with 2 minutes left in the first half we had 2 first downs and 23 yards of total offense. We had back to back scoring drives bookended around halftime and that's it. Every other drive was a punt or out on downs and most drives were very short. And Russ ran into sacks, held the ball for sacks, wildly overthrew and underthrew DK several times, threw it to Eskridge in double coverage, threw the ball too early and didn't force Donald to make a decision on a screen to DeeJay to stall a drive in Rams territory. There were opportunities to win late despite all that like every game this year except Minnesota. Our offense is ending this year the same as last year. The biggest reason we are losing. Its not a lack of talent either. Its a lack of execution.

[curmudgeon]

Games are rigged. They have been for a long time. It’s blatantly obvious now and they don’t care as long as the $$ keeps rolling in…..

[Oly]

The game itself became embarrassing...but it was more embarrassing for the NFL. The last two years I have been trying to get my wife onboard as a more enlightened fan...but she has seen numerous examples from games we watched together that she questions my emotional attachment to an NFL spoiled by doubts and suspicion for its own integrity.

I told her I was ignoring some of the more obvious calls in games I've seen beside our own. Like PC after the game he said the refs calls usually balance out and as a HC perhaps he can't honestly express his concerns. When the announcers themselves question the calls and their ex-referee analyst questions the more thinly veiled calls...it causes doubts I find harder to ignore for my own enjoyment. I would be more accepting when these mystery calls happen during 1rst or 2nd down...but critical 3rd downs and some very late flags...these steal momentum and become common enough I can't feel the exhilaration of a good play until I quickly look on screen to see if a flag was thrown.

This not only dramatically affects a team and its momentum...but steals some of the joy from watching a well played effort. My wife questions the rules of pass interference and what constitutes a legal catch since both call types are no longer visually obvious to casual viewers...let alone play commentators. In trying to explain early on what I felt the rules were...she pointed out that my own definitions must be flawed as she observed the many variations that now seem to exist. She isn't normally so cynical but she points out that legalized betting being allowed and endorsed is no doubt "helped" by the ambiguity of certain rules.

One game last year...fortunately I don't remember which one...had a catch ruled complete by a ref running behind the receiver only to be "over-turned" by a ref from the other side of the field on a late flag he threw. I kidded to her to stop giving me doubts for one of the few games I eagerly await for. She has bought me many jerseys and seems skeptical how I can like her gifts when the jersey's guy is traded or let go so often. She knew I was proud of my T.Lockett/J.Clowney/F.Clark jerseys...RW and Lockett are my only surviving jerseys of guys still on the team...and I have almost 15 different jerseys. She assures me I don't want to know what she paid to get them for me...each Christmas.

Gerald Everette was much more candid than PC when he responded disheartened about the refs making some mystery(my own word not his) calls while "missing" calls that seemed more obvious to him. I have not missed but two games since I started declaring myself a Seahawk fan to co-workers in 2010.

We moved here in the NW around 1984 and I watched games more because of the local coverage...and like many observers...the 2005 Super Bowl began the creeping guilt of ref over-involvement in the games outcome.

I've had the night to calm down...and I'm still where I was last night. This post captures my thoughts perfectly. I have followed this team since the 80s, like many others on this board, and that means I've suffered through some bad years and painful endings. But with the exception of XL, I pretty much never turned off the game and the end and said "what's the point?" Even when the Hawks sucked, there was enjoyment in watching the Seahawks. That's not the case any more. I don't know if the league's constant fiddling with the rules makes officials' jobs impossible, if they are just less skilled than yesteryear, or both (probably both), but watching the games has just stopped being very fun for all of the reasons that tarlhawk mentioned. Why should I spend hours of my life getting invested in a game that can be taken over by one or two instances of gross incompetence from the refs? I just don't think the NFL is a good product right now.

We'll see if I get really bored some Sunday in the future, but I doubt I'll watch another game this season.

[trents]

Russ had a passer rating of 55.3 in last night's game. Not good. In contrast, Stafford had passer rating of 106.1.

[Hawktawk]

That holding call on 3rd down directly resulted in a Rams TD.
So it could be said that the Hawks D held them to less than 20 pts. or at least they had a good chance to not allow that much.
And that could have resulted in points for the Hawks after the punt. Considering our poor Offensive output, I wouldn't have
put money on it, but strange things happen in NFL games.

The hold call was borderline. I didn't like the late flag but I have seen less called. Instant replay is not currently available to officials. They revolted against the PI review rule, basically refusing to call any PI or having NY reject obviously wrong fouls etc.
Good teams overcome bad officials . Bad teams complain about officials and GET NO RESPECT FROM OFFICIALS.

[Hawktawk]

Russ had a passer rating of 55.3 in last night's game. Not good. In contrast, Stafford had passer rating of 106.1.

Aaron Donald lives rent free in Russell's head.

[NorthHawk]

've had the night to calm down...and I'm still where I was last night. This post captures my thoughts perfectly. I have followed this team since the 80s, like many others on this board, and that means I've suffered through some bad years and painful endings. But with the exception of XL, I pretty much never turned off the game and the end and said "what's the point?" Even when the Hawks sucked, there was enjoyment in watching the Seahawks. That's not the case any more. I don't know if the league's constant fiddling with the rules makes officials' jobs impossible, if they are just less skilled than yesteryear, or both (probably both), but watching the games has just stopped being very fun for all of the reasons that tarlhawk mentioned. Why should I spend hours of my life getting invested in a game that can be taken over by one or two instances of gross incompetence from the refs? I just don't think the NFL is a good product right now.

We'll see if I get really bored some Sunday in the future, but I doubt I'll watch another game this season.

I've been pushing for the NFL to figure out how to help the Referees make correct calls. The only thing that I can see at this point that wouldn't be a major change is to add a member of the crew to the press box
where they can buzz down and talk to the on field Head Referee. We've seen the Saints get jobbed twice and last night we saw an almost identical issue with PI where the defender held down the arms of the receiver
before the ball got there and no penalty. That kind of stuff is going to cost the league revenue as doubts about the honesty of the officials will begin to be questioned. That will directly mean a loss of gambling
revenue as gamblers move to bet on other things.

In my scenario this new member to the Officiating crew would rotate onto the field in different games and also become an available replacement to the on field crew should one get injured. I think it's important that
the person in the box not be there permanently but rotate as to create a better sense of teamwork and trust by on field officials. The NFL is a multi billion dollar business and to mess it up by not getting obvious calls
correct is a travesty and won't fly well in countries that the NFL wants to expand to. It's important that they get it right.

[I-5]

No game is perfect, and the defense did miss some tackles, but overall, they played very very well...well enough to keep the Rams 8 points below their average. And 7 of those points were directly due to the gift from the refs gifting the Rams a long first down on that ghost call on Austin. This loss is squarely on the offense (not to mention the obvious job by the referees).

[RiverDog]

No game is perfect, and the defense did miss some tackles, but overall, they played very very well...well enough to keep the Rams 8 points below their average. And 7 of those points were directly due to the gift from the refs gifting the Rams a long first down on that ghost call on Austin. This loss is squarely on the offense (not to mention the obvious job by the referees).

I agree, at least as far as it applies to the first half. The 2nd half not so much as the Rams punted just once. And like so many teams this season, we did not have an answer for Cooper Kupp, who came up with clutch catch after clutch catch.

There's no doubt that the officiating was bad, especially that no-call against DJ Dallas. Had that play happened in a tie game in the Super Bowl, the victimized fan base would have rioted. With the technology we have where officials are directly connected to a centralized authority, there has to be a simple solution to an obviously blown call like that. Just tell the ref to pick up or throw the flag, for crying out loud.

[I-5]

There's no doubt that the officiating was bad, especially that no-call against DJ Dallas. Had that play happened in a tie game in the Super Bowl, the victimized fan base would have rioted. With the technology we have where officials are directly connected to a centralized authority, there has to be a simple solution to an obviously blown call like that. Just tell the ref to pick up or throw the flag, for crying out loud.

I think it applies to the entire game, not just the first half. As I said, the TD to Kupp was the direct result of a gift by the refs to the Rams. Keeping the Rams to 8 below their average is all that you can ask, including all the deck stacking in favour of LA. Kudos to the D. Bottom line, the offense stunk it up, even without the bad calls.

[RiverDog]

I got a kick out of this tweet from a Hawks fan: “Brutal call. The Seahawks might’ve moved into the No. 11 seed in the NFC if they got this right,” another fan said – sarcastically.

That sums up my feelings about the bad calls, the game, and our season.

Besides, I can't help thinking about an even worse call that went against us, the Vinny Testaverde helmet touchdown in 1998. Had they got that call right, we would have won the game, snuck into the playoffs, been one and done, and Dennis Erickson wouldn't have gotten fired and instead gotten another year to perpetuate his mediocre teams and we would have missed out on hiring Mike Holmgren. So, in hindsight, that historically bad call was a blessing in disguise.

So, as Yogi Berra might say, is this déjà vu over again? Could that call last night be the one that slaps Jodi Allen in the face and cause her to hit the reset button and fire Pete ushering in a fresh, wildly successful era of Seahawks football and our 2nd Lombardi?

[NorthHawk]

Am I the only one that finds it odd that there are 2 brutal PI non calls that have gone in the
Rams favor the last few years? This one on DJ Dallas seemed almost a carbon copy of the one
against the Saints and no flag on either. The were absolutely jobbed by their situation unlike us.

[tarlhawk]

So, as Yogi Berra might say, is this déjà vu over again? Could that call last night be the one that slaps Jodi Allen in the face and cause her to hit the reset button and fire Pete ushering in a fresh, wildly successful era of Seahawks football and our 2nd Lombardi?

Oh look...the grass really is greener over there! For a fan site some of the posters have all the emotion of a lynch mob...or children spoiled by their parents success and "wanting a way out...any way" Your constant storm clouds would be humorous if I didn't sense their sincerity. It's stereotyped that old men are often bitter and love to argue (my wife has tried to keep me off that road myself)...but a heavy dose of emotions and less critical thinking are making me less likely to banter as often.

“Folks are usually about as happy as they make their minds up to be.”
― Abraham Lincoln
“Those who look for the bad in people will surely find it.”
― Abraham Lincoln
“And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.”
― Abraham Lincoln

[Hawktawk]

Tarihawk I like your analytical posts but you’re the one showing the fandom , the disconnect from reality . Russell has the worst 3rd down completion percentage in the league at 43%. Worse than Trevor Lawrence or Zach Wilson or any rookie. It’s remarkable we are only 29th in 3rd down conversions . This show is over . That was then this is now . It is over and no amount of whistling in the graveyard is going to change it.

[tarlhawk]

Tarihawk I like your analytical posts but you’re the one showing the fandom , the disconnect from reality . Russell has the worst 3rd down completion percentage in the league at 43%. Worse than Trevor Lawrence or Zach Wilson or any rookie. It’s remarkable we are only 29th in 3rd down conversions . This show is over . That was then this is now . It is over and no amount of whistling in the graveyard is going to change it.

So make your post relevant by contrasting the years prior to this??

[I-5]

Russ has rightfully earned all the accolades he has had in his career, and is I think a sure first-ballot HOF'er. But he simply has been mediocre to awful this season (except for Week 1). He's probably a victim of his own success, since he's done it for so long with an average team, but nothing is different about the team this year from last year except the defense is better, and he simply isn't playing up to his own standard.

[RiverDog]

Am I the only one that finds it odd that there are 2 brutal PI non calls that have gone in the
Rams favor the last few years? This one on DJ Dallas seemed almost a carbon copy of the one
against the Saints and no flag on either. The were absolutely jobbed by their situation unlike us.

No, you're not the only one, and I think I mentioned this in another thread (or was it the other forum?). There were some differences, the obvious one being that the Super Bowl was on the line, but the play itself was eerily similar. And it sure brought the conspiracy theorists out of the woodwork as the SB was being played in New Orleans and they were convinced that Goodell didn't want a SB participant in their home stadium.

[RiverDog]

So, as Yogi Berra might say, is this déjà vu over again? Could that call last night be the one that slaps Jodi Allen in the face and cause her to hit the reset button and fire Pete ushering in a fresh, wildly successful era of Seahawks football and our 2nd Lombardi?

Oh look...the grass really is greener over there! For a fan site some of the posters have all the emotion of a lynch mob...or children spoiled by their parents success and "wanting a way out...any way" Your constant storm clouds would be humorous if I didn't sense their sincerity. It's stereotyped that old men are often bitter and love to argue (my wife has tried to keep me off that road myself)...but a heavy dose of emotions and less critical thinking are making me less likely to banter as often.

“Folks are usually about as happy as they make their minds up to be.”
― Abraham Lincoln
“Those who look for the bad in people will surely find it.”
― Abraham Lincoln
“And in the end, it's not the years in your life that count. It's the life in your years.”
― Abraham Lincoln

Well, I could have quoted my other favorite source, Winston Churchill, but Yogi is always my favorite.

All I was trying to do was point out that there was a situation in our recent past where bad officiating turned out to be a blessing in disguise, unless you're one that felt that Dennis Erickson would have brought us our first Lombardi.