No playoffs this year

[c_hawkbob]

Alas, with Washington's win over Atlanta we're eliminated from the post season. Screw it, I still wanna beat the Lambs next week.

[Stream Hawk]

I think we can/will beat the Rams. I think the whole team needs to play full strength. 10 wins would be a great achievment.

[NorthHawk]

The Rams will probably be resting players so we will probably win and end up with the 21st pick instead of maybe the 17th.

[Aseahawkfan]

I'll post his here too.

I'd sit Geno and see what we have in Howell with preparation. That will provide more information on how to move forward at the QB position. Keep believing Geno can be "The Man" with a better O-line with his backup level production from year to year or go with a much cheaper Howell for similar production and see what happens then see what's in the draft.

This last Rams game is an assessment game. I'd rest players like Lucas and anyone else I'm sure of or that could use more rehab time. I'd roll into this game looking to assess some players I'm not sure of and prepare for next year.

I'd rest D.K. too, let him heal up for next year or ensure no injuries if the team decides to trade him.

Let JSN play and try for the record with Howell. Or I guess play Geno if you maybe plan to trade him or let him walk. So he can audition for another team.

I'd prefer a higher draft pick, but as Northawk said it will be a moderate difference between 17 and 21 or something. Middling draft pick likely leading to another year of mediocrity as that isn't the best position to draft a quality QB unless you get lucky.

[Stream Hawk]

I'll post his here too.

I'd sit Geno and see what we have in Howell with preparation. That will provide more information on how to move forward at the QB position. Keep believing Geno can be "The Man" with a better O-line with his backup level production from year to year or go with a much cheaper Howell for similar production and see what happens then see what's in the draft.

This last Rams game is an assessment game. I'd rest players like Lucas and anyone else I'm sure of or that could use more rehab time. I'd roll into this game looking to assess some players I'm not sure of and prepare for next year.

I'd rest D.K. too, let him heal up for next year or ensure no injuries if the team decides to trade him.

Let JSN play and try for the record with Howell. Or I guess play Geno if you maybe plan to trade him or let him walk. So he can audition for another team.

I'd prefer a higher draft pick, but as Northawk said it will be a moderate difference between 17 and 21 or something. Middling draft pick likely leading to another year of mediocrity as that isn't the best position to draft a quality QB unless you get lucky.

I’m OK with that. Especially since Geno is hurt. But I’d like to see Abe and OL play.

[Aseahawkfan]

I think Lucas should focus as much as possible on rehabbing that knee. I have no interest in risking it in the final game of a noncontending season.

[River Dog]

I'm halfway on sitting starters/veterans and pulling out the plugs and win at all costs vs. the Rams next week. On the one hand, you never want to send a signal to the players that it's OK not to try to win. There is still value in beating the Rams and ending the season on a high note. Playoffs or no playoffs, a double digit win season is a pretty good start for the youngest head coach in the NFL, especially when the experts were predicting a losing record. Plus, a lot of those players could use the work.

But on the other hand, there are logical, practical reasons for sitting starters/veterans, especially if they're nursing injuries like Geno is, and it would be helpful to get some more film on guys like Howell. I suppose if I were in Macdonald's spot, I'd talk with the individual players and get their thoughts on the matter. If they want to play, then absolutely let them play.

[trents]

I say trade Metcalf now while he's still at his physical peak. Every year that goes by will see his trade value diminish. Father time is no friend of speed. We have so many team-wide needs for better talent that retaining one megatron will not mask, especially a megatron who hurts the team so often with his childish temperament. JSN's blossoming has diminished DK's value to the team IMO and I would add to that the fact that Noah Fant has quietly been coming of age and making some big catches of late.

[River Dog]

I say trade Metcalf now while he's still at his physical peak. Every year that goes by will see his trade value diminish. Father time is no friend of speed. We have so many team-wide needs for better talent that retaining one megatron will not mask, especially a megatron who hurts the team so often with his childish temperament. JSN's blossoming has diminished DK's value to the team IMO and I would add to that the fact that Noah Fant has quietly been coming of age and making some big catches of late.

You're preaching to the choir with regards to Metcalf. It isn't so much his childish behavior that bothers me. Up until last week, he hadn't committed a PF all season. I'm more concerned about his sloppy route running, which arguably cost us two games this season. I've been arguing that we should have traded him prior to re-signing him. But that ship may have sailed. Metcalf had a poor season, at least statistically, and there may not be very many teams in the market.

There's going to be a lot of tough decisions ahead in the offseason, and Metcalf is one of them. He'll be going into his last season under his current deal, and he's likely going to want a big pay raise, perhaps market setting. We also have Tyler Lockett, who likewise had a poor season and has a huge cap hit in 2025. If we're going to be active in the free agent market, we're going to have to make some cuts. And, of course, there's the quarterback position. I've seen a lot of talk about possible trades, including Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence.

[Aseahawkfan]

If we pick up Trevor Lawrence, you want to keep DK. If we keep Geno, no point in keeping DK.

[trents]

IMO, DK's body language as well as his performance say he's no longer engaged with the program as a Seahawk. I can't imagine he's a positive element in the locker room.

I can't see going for Justin Fields. I know he's been on a bad team but still, he's never impressed me. He strikes me as one of those really good college QBs who just can't quite process fast enough to succeed in the NFL.

Trever Lawrence? I'm concerned that he may already be ruined. PTSD.

[Aseahawkfan]

IMO, DK's body language as well as his performance say he's no longer engaged with the program as a Seahawk. I can't imagine he's a positive element in the locker room.

I can't see going for Justin Fields. I know he's been on a bad team but still, he's never impressed me. He strikes me as one of those really good college QBs who just can't quite process fast enough to succeed in the NFL.

Trever Lawrence? I'm concerned that he may already be ruined. PTSD.

I can't either. D.K. is a very aggressive guy. He's not Terrell Owens or Percy Harvin, but he's a hot-head. It cannot help that he is watching his best years waste away on a team going nowhere with a QB who can't take advantage of his talents. No position in football is more QB dependent than the WR position. The WR is also OC dependent as well. It would make me very unhappy to be on a team that is wasting my talents both at the QB position and the OC position. I would try to suck it up, but inside it would be killing me to have my speed and size wasted.

If I were a GM, I would see this and move D.K. to a team that could take advantage of his skillset, not hang on to a guy I know my QB can't take advantage of. I see it as a John Schneider mistake to hold onto a guy that is obviously being under-utilized on a rebuilding team with a QB who can't play big ball and never has been able to.

I will forever say Geno is not a great QB and John should know it. GM's should not be building for mediocrity with some serviceable mid tier starter former backup who can't elevate their game to beat the best teams with any consistency. And pull the band-aid off and get rid of Geno and trade D.K., let the team do what it will do and get to rebuilding with a reduced salary cap until you can set up for a good QB draft for long-term competition. You don't tell the coach to lose, but as the talent manager of the team you should know when you're ready to contend and who fits the skillset of your QB without watching a receiver like D.K. waste away on the team being underutilized and his trade value dropping at the same time. That is bad talent evaluation and management.

[River Dog]

IMO, DK's body language as well as his performance say he's no longer engaged with the program as a Seahawk. I can't imagine he's a positive element in the locker room.

I can't see going for Justin Fields. I know he's been on a bad team but still, he's never impressed me. He strikes me as one of those really good college QBs who just can't quite process fast enough to succeed in the NFL.

Trever Lawrence? I'm concerned that he may already be ruined. PTSD.

Fields would be a low risk, high reward player. We wouldn't have to give up a high draft choice or pay him top dollar to aquire him. If he doesn't work out, then we could draft a QB the following year. He was having a decent year in Pittsburgh before Russell returned to their lineup. The Bears are a virtual graveyard for quarterbacks as they've destroyed all they've gotten their hands on in recent years, so it's hard to hold that experience against him. I'm not necessarily advocating that we go after him, but if we're going to part ways with Geno, Fields would make a lot of sense.

Lawrence has had just the one concussion that I know of. He's cleared the protocol and is out due to his having shoulder surgery on his non-throwing arm. I don't see his health as being a major issue, but his asking price will.

As always, the quarterback market is expected to be very active this offseason. The Titans benched Will Levis and are all but assured to cut bait with him. The Jets are expected to part ways with Aaron Rodgers. The Raiders and Giants are already QB needy. The Niners could part ways with Mr. Irrelevant and the Cowboys might move on from Dak. The Browns, Saints, Panthers, over half of the non-playoff teams in the league could at least be considering an upgrade, and the QB draft class doesn't look that strong.

[NorthHawk]

The potential QB changes could have very big results for teams.
Like said, Rodgers seems to be greasing the skids for his departure, but after that the intriguing QBs are Darnold and maybe Prescott.
If Darnold isn't offered a huge contract by the Vikings he could end up in SF and Purdy could be looking for a job. His last few games haven't been very good when he's needed the most.
The expected top 2 draftable QBs are Sanders and Ward so they might end up with the Giants and the Titans if they don't want to keep Levis (which I think is premature at this moment) or maybe even the Browns if they want to move on from Watson.
So there could be a lot of shuffling with current NFL QBs and an addition of maybe 3 or 4 drafted QBs pushed into starting roles where teams hope they are the next CJ Stroud or Jayden Daniels.
Of the current first 10 teams in the draft it looks like maybe 3 are settled at QB. It makes me expect there to be some trading up for one of the top 2 and NE with the first pick could end up with a real haul of picks and maybe players.
It might be one of those drafts where outside of the top 2 or 3 it's best to take a QB in the mid rounds if someone looks promising.