9ers

[Hawktawk]

Are legit . I still feel like JG is the weak link but he’s been solid and loaded with skill weapons . Aside from McCaffrey the kid they just got back is a missile .
One caveat is the play of the Cards . They were gonna lose but they quit playing in the 3rd quarter , quit tackling , no hustle . Other than Hopkins and a game effort from a battered McCoy they stunk. Kings bury should be in as much hot water as any coach . He’s lost the team .
I feel good about our team but if we want the division we might need 5 or 6 of 7 and a war with the 9ers. Bosa is a dirty player but he’s a beast .

[RiverDog]

It was an impressive performance. Even though the Cards are a bad team, the Niners played a complete game and are gelling at the right time of year. McCaffery was a good addition for them, gives their offense a lot of options. They still don't have Erik Armistead and it looked like Deebo got dinged up, but they are setting themselves up well for a SB run. IMO they are the most dangerous team in the conference.

I agree with you about Jimmy G. He's definitely the weak link and can be counted on for at least one bad brain fart per game.

Looking at their remaining schedule, it's similar to ours in terms of strength, with games against the Dolphins, Bucs, and the suddenly relevant Commanders. Like us, 5 of their last 7 games are at home. And for those of you that think the time change is a huge deal, they won't have to leave the Pacific time zone for the rest of the regular season.

[Hawktawk]

Last night was a true home game too. They have more fans in Mexico then at Levi

[obiken]

How is JG the weak link, How many SB and NFC title games have better QB's taken their team to the SB?? Sorry his only problem is his durability, thats the only reason they went to Lance.

[RiverDog]

How is JG the weak link, How many SB and NFC title games have better QB's taken their team to the SB?? Sorry his only problem is his durability, thats the only reason they went to Lance.

Because JG is a choke artist.

And no, the reason the Niners wanted to move on from him wasn't because of his durability, it's because they felt that Lance was their best option.

[RiverDog]

Last night was a true home game too. They have more fans in Mexico then at Levi

It would have been a Niners home game had they held it in Arizona, too. The Cards have one of the wimpiest fan bases in the league.

[NorthHawk]

JG doesn't need to be great, just a competent QB who doesn't force the ball. The rest of that team can take them a long way.

[Hawktawk]

How is JG the weak link, How many SB and NFC title games have better QB's taken their team to the SB?? Sorry his only problem is his durability, thats the only reason they went to Lance.

JG is a marginal talent on as talented a roster as I have seen top to bottom . In 2018 they were so confident in him in the packers playoff game he threw 8 times . In that super bowl he would have had a Lombardi had he hit a wide open receiver for a TD instead of overthrowing it . He did nothing as his defense and ST beat Green Bay . He did nothing in the NFC title game last year . He lost to us on a pick last year . Got swept by Seattle with a similar roster .


He’s the weak link . He’s better right now . He may not be weak enough but it’s only gotta be a couple plays here and there .

[Hawktawk]

JG doesn't need to be great, just a competent QB who doesn't force the ball. The rest of that team can take them a long way.

100% agree. He’s no superstar but he can be Jeff Hostetler , Trent Dilfer , Brad Johnson on a team this loaded . Just take care of the ball .

[tarlhawk]

How ironic that we were the team that "unleashed" Jimmy G back onto the NFL in week 2 on Trey Lances 2nd (and last) start....he leaves as a forgotten starter that game....and then we get "torched" by a rejuvenated Jimmy G. and 49ers team in general.

Jimmy G. and Geno have some similar traits (quick read and release to what the Defense is offering...and both are dangerous QBs when given the support of multiple varied weapons). Many clamored for us to trade for Jimmy G. knowing his QB "style" would fit well with Shane Waldron's playcalling/schemes....but our team realized Geno is quite capable of delivering similar game play at a fraction of the cost.

Before "stealing" McCaffrey from the Panthers the 49ers offered an opponent the opportunity to focus on shutting down their TE George Kittle to allow Deebo less impact....but now McCaffrey is a true dual edged sword (equally adept at catching and rushing) adding further wrinkles to the consternation of many a Defensive Coordinator in the NFL. The two-headed 49er Hydra of Kittle/Deebo has now grown its 3rd head McCaffrey. Speed and solid open field tackling is key to limiting the impact of these three.

Winning the NFC West is a lofty goal with the current 49er team standing in the way....but to get meaning from that impending clash our team has to continue to improve with the true focus on each next scheduled opponent. Onward and upward! Go Hawks

[idhawkman]

I think our schedule is much easier than the niners the rest of the way. We have the raiders, Rams and panthers before we face them again. All three are basically out of the playoff picture. The niners have the saints, dolphins and bucs before coming to us. All three of which are definitely still in the playoff mix.

They then have commanders, raiders and cards which will most likely be at least two wins for them depending on their health. We have Cheifs, jets and Rams which should be at least two wins for us now that the jets have lost their locker room.

I see us winning the division if we stay somewhat healthy and don't forget we get Tre back this week.

[RiverDog]

Agreed with all of the above comments. Garoppolo is a mediocre QB on an outstanding team. He won't be asked to win games. All he needs to do is to keep from losing them. Lots of weapons out there. I've always said that although Travis Kelce is the best FF TE, that George Kittle is the best all around as in addition to his very good pass catching ability, he blocks like a bulldozer, one of those guys with a motor that just won't quit. Toss in Deebo, Aiyuk, Mitchell, McCaffery, a very solid OL, and a lights out defense and the Niners are loaded.

But it's still a long ways to January and the playoffs. A lot can happen.

[RiverDog]

I think our schedule is much easier than the niners the rest of the way. We have the raiders, Rams and panthers before we face them again. All three are basically out of the playoff picture. The niners have the saints, dolphins and bucs before coming to us. All three of which are definitely still in the playoff mix.

They then have commanders, raiders and cards which will most likely be at least two wins for them depending on their health. We have Cheifs, jets and Rams which should be at least two wins for us now that the jets have lost their locker room.

I see us winning the division if we stay somewhat healthy and don't forget we get Tre back this week.

The Niners finish with the Raiders and Cards, two teams that might be playing with interim head coaches by then. They have 5 out of their last 7 at home with two very short road trips. They don't have to play the Chiefs in KC like we do. I'd rate the two schedules as a tossup.

[tarlhawk]

Our team has to play at its best each week in order to get "expected" results (from teams suffering)....and "unexpected" results when the opponent is "on a roll". You can't sleep on any NFL team and need solid preparation and execution just to compete for the results our team wants each week.

Pete uses the "treat every game as a Championship" game not as a cliche or "buy-in for the team" but the very real perspective of giving each opponent the due respect of competing in the NFL....no outcome is a "given" as Tampa showed us recently. Onward and upward! Go hawks

[obiken]

JG is a marginal talent on as talented a roster as I have seen top to bottom . In 2018 they were so confident in him in the packers playoff game he threw 8 times . In that super bowl he would have had a Lombardi had he hit a wide open receiver for a TD instead of overthrowing it . He did nothing as his defense and ST beat Green Bay . He did nothing in the NFC title game last year . He lost to us on a pick last year . Got swept by Seattle with a similar roster .
He’s the weak link . He’s better right now . He may not be weak enough but it’s only gotta be a couple plays here and there

He is top 5 on 3rd down throws, he is accurate, he has the locker room, he's is the most underrated talent in the league. They are 9-29 without him, they are 40-19 with him. JG will get a lot more dough next year, bank on it. They tried to trade him, would not give him a playbook, and brought in his replacement. He sucked it up, and acted like an adult, not like Mayfield, or Rogers. 1/2 the teams in the league would be better off with him. He is a Star not a Superstar.

[RiverDog]

JG is a marginal talent on as talented a roster as I have seen top to bottom . In 2018 they were so confident in him in the packers playoff game he threw 8 times . In that super bowl he would have had a Lombardi had he hit a wide open receiver for a TD instead of overthrowing it . He did nothing as his defense and ST beat Green Bay . He did nothing in the NFC title game last year . He lost to us on a pick last year . Got swept by Seattle with a similar roster .
He’s the weak link . He’s better right now . He may not be weak enough but it’s only gotta be a couple plays here and there

He is top 5 on 3rd down throws, he is accurate, he has the locker room, he's is the most underrated talent in the league. They are 9-29 without him, they are 40-19 with him. JG will get a lot more dough next year, bank on it. They tried to trade him, would not give him a playbook, and brought in his replacement. He sucked it up, and acted like an adult, not like Mayfield, or Rogers. 1/2 the teams in the league would be better off with him. He is a Star not a Superstar.

Did you watch the playoffs last year, Obi? In 3 games, Jimmy G. sucked. As a matter fact, his entire playoff record sucks. In 6 career playoff games, Jimmy G. is 80-132 (60.6%) for an average of 160 yards per game with 4 TD's and 6 INT's. He had a 2.8 rating in the 4th quarter of their SB loss to the Chiefs when he was 3-of-11 for 36 yards, 1 INT, and a fourth-down sack. He's a choke artist.

That's why the Niners were looking to dump him. Perhaps he's changed and learned from his mistakes, but there is no doubt that he's the weak link and the biggest risk to the Niners as they look to go back to the SB. Hawktawk is exactly right. Jimmy G. is a marginal talent on a roster that is otherwise loaded.

[Hawktawk]

They tried to throw him away for Trey Lance who had proven nothing . It’s all you need to know . And I give Jimmy G credit for being chill about all of it . But he made over 20 million a year last couple so no tears shed here when our guy makes 3.5 .

Unless he gets them in the Super bowl he will be looking for a team next year too .

[Aseahawkfan]

49ers control the division right now. They have a great defense. A solid offense.

If we want to win the division, we likely have to beat them in head to head play when they come to Seattle to have any chance.

[RiverDog]

They tried to throw him away for Trey Lance who had proven nothing . It’s all you need to know . And I give Jimmy G credit for being chill about all of it . But he made over 20 million a year last couple so no tears shed here when our guy makes 3.5 .

Unless he gets them in the Super bowl he will be looking for a team next year too .

Agreed. Garoppolo was in a really tough spot but made the most of it, and like Obi said, he has a very good locker room presence. His teammates seem to like him.

[obiken]

Agreed. Garoppolo was in a really tough spot but made the most of it, and like Obi said, he has a very good locker room presence. His teammates seem to like him.

But you guys are forgetting they have been getting more and more guys off the IR now, and they have C Mac that is a beast, sorry they have the best chance to get to the SB of any team out there. There is 0 reason they cant roll up 12 games especially with their schedule, including us.

[Hawktawk]

49ers control the division right now. They have a great defense. A solid offense.

If we want to win the division, we likely have to beat them in head to head play when they come to Seattle to have any chance.

I agree completely although this year who knows . These niners lost 28-14 to Atlanta a few weeks ago . They look formidable though .

Throw out the score last night though . Even Bhudda Baker said the cards team isn’t playing hard . Their O line and run game coordinator was fired and sent home Monday morning from Mexico City due to “ an incident that happened in Mexico City “. So there’s that . Then they tried to throw over 40 times .

9 ers are very good . We will play with more passion then their opponent last night , more talent too . I can’t call a win over them right now . Let’s see where everyone’s at when we see them.

[RiverDog]

Agreed. Garoppolo was in a really tough spot but made the most of it, and like Obi said, he has a very good locker room presence. His teammates seem to like him.

But you guys are forgetting they have been getting more and more guys off the IR now, and they have C Mac that is a beast, sorry they have the best chance to get to the SB of any team out there. There is 0 reason they cant roll up 12 games especially with their schedule, including us.

Well, the discussion we were arguing about was Garoppolo, not the Niners as a whole.

I agree, if I had to put money on any team in the NFC, it would be the Niners. And you're right, they are getting their guys back just in time for a SB run. But I wouldn't give them '0' reason that they couldn't run the table.

[Aseahawkfan]

49ers have the Dolphins as a tough out and us at home.

But first we have to take care of business and beat the Rams to knock them out and send them to the offseason early.

[obiken]

49ers have the Dolphins as a tough out and us at home.

But first we have to take care of business and beat the Rams to knock them out and send them to the offseason early.

Yeah I think we beat them.

[RiverDog]

49ers have the Dolphins as a tough out and us at home.

But first we have to take care of business and beat the Rams to knock them out and send them to the offseason early.

They also have Tampa Bay and Washington, two teams that have started to gel, Washington winning 5 of their last 6, and we all know about the Bucs.

This thing could still go a lot of ways, especially this season, where upsets have been the norm.

[tarlhawk]

Each week we face a different challenge to focus and develop a game plan/ tailor scheme for. Being a home game affords our team to enjoy Thanksgiving without compromising the preparation/practice needed to take the field with confidence. The 49ers and Rams often take turns being our "arch nemesis" and recently both have played that role better than we desire. Ignor the record when playing a team within your conference.

Fortunately the Cardinals have mainly been scary with a recent haunting injury hex association.
The 49ers have the look and feel of being packaged for a Super bowl push but being favored going forward requires the discipline of facing teams eager to knock you down a peg. Every mistake is magnified and every "excuse" is glossed over by a media eager to "sell copy". Our team plays well wearing the "under dog" collar while those teams that hated RW's knack for penchant comebacks have found little relief in Geno.

Playing/adapting offensive and defensive executions offer improvements versus stagnation as our younger players continue to learn and progress....many of our players offer a high ceiling as experience sharpens their potential into "on the field" improved performance. Depending on our base front the defensive line represents the appearance of trying to get QB rush pressure from three DT's and only one DE body type so executing required technique in masking which direction your pass rush is coming from is paramount. Your pre-snap pass coverage "look" has to limit any "tells" that the QB can utilize to "slide his pass pro towards. We are getting better at "moving our pieces" to function effectively in our pass rush execution. Onward and upward! Go Hawks

[RiverDog]

Garoppolo is out for the season with a broken foot:

The 49ers turned to Jimmy Garoppolo early this season after initial starter Trey Lance suffered a season-ending ankle injury. Now, they're turning to rookie Brock Purdy after Garoppolo suffered his own season-ending injury in Week 13 against the Dolphins. After taking a sack on San Francisco's first drive of Sunday's win, Garoppolo was seen favoring his lower body on the sidelines, then visited the medical tent before being carted to the locker room. Purdy replaced him for the remainder of the game.

Coach Kyle Shanahan announced immediately following the game that Garoppolo suffered a broken foot and will require surgery that will sideline him for the remainder of 2022. Garoppolo had been enjoying one of the most productive seasons of his 49ers career, filling in for Lance while guiding the 49ers atop the NFC West. His own injury history, however, was reportedly one of the primary reasons San Francisco sought Lance as a potential long-term starter. Now, it's suddenly back in the spotlight.

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/jimm ... take-over/

So much for us being the only team snake bit by injuries.

And, I might add, despite playing a rookie 3rd string quarterback for all but the first series, the Niners trounced one of the better teams in the league.

[Hawktawk]

They got a big win with him out most of the Miami game . I didn’t see a minute of it but it looked like they rolled up
Miami pretty good. I said a few weeks ago JG was the weak link . I’m beginning to think their D is so filthy on every level all they need is someone not to screw it up . If there’s a team that can weather it it’s the 9ers

[RiverDog]

They got a big win with him out most of the Miami game . I didn’t see a minute of it but it looked like they rolled up
Miami pretty good. I said a few weeks ago JG was the weak link . I’m beginning to think their D is so filthy on every level all they need is someone not to screw it up . If there’s a team that can weather it it’s the 9ers

Agreed. I saw bits and pieces of the game via Red Zone. There was one play, a scoop and score by the Niners, that the Dolphins OL had a chance to tackle and he just pulled up. Purdy didn't appear to play that well, but he doesn't really have to with the type of talent that surrounds him on both sides of the ball.

Here's something to think about: Suppose the Niners win the SB and this kid Brock Purdy plays lights out in it. Would they have the courage to give the MVP to him or would they feel compelled to give it to someone that's paid their dues? Can you imagine being the last player selected in the 2022 draft, 3rd string barely making the 53 man roster, and end up winning the MVP in the biggest game on the planet in your rookie season?

[NorthHawk]

It would be a Kurt Warner type of story that they would love to promote.

[RiverDog]

It would be a Kurt Warner type of story that they would love to promote.

Warner is perhaps the closest similarity, but it would be a quite different path, and yes, the league would love a fairy tale story like that.

Anyhow, it will be interesting to see how the Niners survive. They pretty much dominated the Dolphins yesterday and at least statistically, Tua had one of his worst games of his career with 3 turnovers so not a lot was required out of Purdy. But there'll be other games where it's close and they'll need to depend on him to perform in the clutch.

[Hawktawk]

Let’s don’t get too far ahead of our skis on the kid with the 9ers . He’s played part of one game . Let’s get some film on him . He’s got as many weapons as most any team but let’s see. Sometimes losing / changing qb mid game screws up a defense . Purdy will get everyone’s undivided attention . I can’t see how he’s a better option there than Jimmy G but who knows this year .

[NorthHawk]

Shanahan runs a very QB friendly Offense. They’ve had some success with marginal QBs and it might be argued that
Jimmy G is a product of that Offense and could have trouble in many other Offenses.
Shanahan, more than most coaches tailors his Offenses to the personnel he has. They might not be as effective as with
JG, but that’s probably because of inexperience. They do, however need a good backup QB and with Mayfield now a
free agent there’s talk he might end up in SF. He could do worse for his career.