Week 3 Games

[RiverDog]

At this point in the season, we should see some favorites start to emerge.

The highlight of the morning games as to be the Bills vs. Dolphins. Both teams are 2-0, play in the same division, and feature young, running quarterbacks that are difficult to defense. Josh Allen is the early favorite for MVP. Tua is the league's top QB statistically, averaging 45 passing yards per game than the 2nd highest rated QB.

Cincy vs. the Jets. The defending AFC champs are 0-2, a Super Bowl loser's curse in the making. The odds of making the playoffs when starting out 0-3 get to be pretty long. Joe Burrow has played like crap, throwing more INT's than TD's and is taking more sacks by far than any other NFL QB. His passer rating is 73.1, QBR 43.4. The Jets, on the other hand, could make a case for the surprise team of the season if they win today. Most experts had them picked as within the bottom 5-6 teams in the league.

In the afternoon games, of course, there's our game with the Falcons, but the other game that will attract a lot of interest will be the Battle of the Bays, or Battle of the GOATs, Brady vs. Rodgers. Tampa Bay can set themselves up as the early favorites in the NFC with a win.

But the real fun game comes tonight on SNF, the Niners at the Broncos. Russell Wilson has played poorly and there's been a lot of heat on Nathanial Hackett for his game management and play calling. Expect to hear plenty of boos if things don't go well for the Donkeys. The Niners lost their starting QB for the season and have had to turn to the QB they had discarded. It should be a very entertaining game.

[Hawktawk]

["RiverDog"]At this point in the season, we should see some favorites start to emerge.

The highlight of the morning games as to be the Bills vs. Dolphins. Both teams are 2-0, play in the same division, and feature young, running quarterbacks that are difficult to defense. Josh Allen is the early favorite for MVP. Tua is the league's top QB statistically, averaging 45 passing yards per game than the 2nd highest rated QB.

Cincy vs. the Jets. The defending AFC champs are 0-2, a Super Bowl loser's curse in the making. The odds of making the playoffs when starting out 0-3 get to be pretty long. Joe Burrow has played like crap, throwing more INT's than TD's and is taking more sacks by far than any other NFL QB. His passer rating is 73.1, QBR 43.4. The Jets, on the other hand, could make a case for the surprise team of the season if they win today. Most experts had them picked as within the bottom 5-6 teams in the league.

In the afternoon games, of course, there's our game with the Falcons, but the other game that will attract a lot of interest will be the Battle of the Bays, or Battle of the GOATs, Brady vs. Rodgers. Tampa Bay can set themselves up as the early favorites in the NFC with a win.

But the real fun game comes tonight on SNF, the Niners at the Broncos. Russell Wilson has played poorly and there's been a lot of heat on Nathanial Hackett for his game management and play calling. Expect to hear plenty of boos if things don't go well for the Donkeys. The Niners lost their starting QB for the season and have had to turn to the QB they had discarded. It should be a very entertaining game. “



It should although who knows . Were the 9ers that good or are we that bad ? If they stop Denver’s run like ours mr let’s ride is in for a long night . Remember, Russ has had a good run game so far .

No I won’t pull for the guy who forced a rebuild on us tonight either but some will . Miami is interesting . The pundits didn’t think much of them , the qb was considered on the edge of a bust. Everyone is on buffalos jock . Jets have one of those “ just a backup “
In Flacco whose won more games than probably half or more of the guys starting this Sunday . Having caught Cincys first game Burrow was dreadful but great twice to Chase at the end but deep 6ed by the kicker at least twice . He had a troublesome appendectomy that put him in the hospital before the season . But the curse is real except in Seattle . Tompa vs idiot , meh is it ok to be sick of both these divas ?
My game is that 1pm matchup where my Team will run over Atlanta and I’ll celebrate 2-1 for Seattle and it’s band of misfits .who knows?

[RiverDog]

It should although who knows . Were the 9ers that good or are we that bad ? If they stop Denver’s run like ours mr let’s ride is in for a long night . Remember, Russ has had a good run game so far. No I won’t pull for the guy who forced a rebuild on us tonight either but some will.

We were going to be rebuilding whether or not Russell left the team. You can't complain about his leaving us with nothing in return, not when we got 3 players and 4 high draft picks.

There is good reason for a Seahawk fan to root for the Broncos, and to tell you the truth, it's sort of a win-win for me. If Denver wins, that increases the chances of our making the playoffs, but if they lose, the draft picks we get from them next spring will be higher.

Miami is interesting . The pundits didn’t think much of them , the qb was considered on the edge of a bust. Everyone is on buffalos jock . Jets have one of those “ just a backup.“ In Flacco whose won more games than probably half or more of the guys starting this Sunday .

Jimmy G's a backup that has likely won more games than half the starters, too. Not sure what that has to do with the price of tea in China, though.

Having caught Cincys first game Burrow was dreadful but great twice to Chase at the end but deep 6ed by the kicker at least twice . He had a troublesome appendectomy that put him in the hospital before the season . But the curse is real except in Seattle . Tompa vs idiot , meh is it ok to be sick of both these divas ?

IMO both Burrow and the Bengals are overrated. They're simply coming back down to Earth, conforming to the norm. But we'll see. Although I don't think they make the playoffs this year, I'm predicting that they'll beat the Jets and their backup QB today.
My game is that 1pm matchup where my Team will run over Atlanta and I’ll celebrate 2-1 for Seattle and it’s band of misfits .who knows?[/quote]

[Hawktawk]

We were going to be rebuilding whether or not Russell left the team. You can't complain about his leaving us with nothing in return, not when we got 3 players and 4 high draft


I’ve said John Swindled them . I’ve said we won the trade . But I also said when we were rolling up teams we should run it back another year . But as Wyman said , it’s a forced rebuild . It was Russell’s wish being fulfilled and I think he will regret it if he doesn’t already . In Seattle he had a few more good years with people and a system and a fan base he knew .

For now I’ll actively root against him . We’re not passing the 9 ers . I want a top ten pick .


"]Miami is interesting . The pundits didn’t think much of them , the qb was considered on the edge of a bust. Everyone is on buffalos jock . Jets have one of those “ just a backup.“ In Flacco whose won more games than probably half or more of the guys starting this Sunday .”

Jimmy G's a backup that has likely won more games than half the starters, too. Not sure what that has to do with the price of tea in China, though.

“It means we give up on guys too soon . The 9ers are formidable with Jimmy’s leadership in the locker room as well as efficient accurate throws on it . With a run game and stiff defense you can play like Geno and win a lot .

Flacco was always overrated on great teams but outdueled manning in the divisional in 2012 and held on to win a Super Bowl . Kinda like Dilfer winning one . It just goes to show it’s not always this “ franchise “ guy whatever the hell that means ? Bankrupt the franchise ?

“Having caught Cincys first game Burrow was dreadful but great twice to Chase at the end but deep 6ed by the kicker at least twice . He had a troublesome appendectomy that put him in the hospital before the season . But the curse is real except in Seattle . Tompa vs idiot , meh is it ok to be sick of both these divas ?

IMO both Burrow and the Bengals are overrated. They're simply coming back down to Earth, conforming to the norm. But we'll see. Although I don't think they make the playoffs this year, I'm predicting that they'll beat the Jets and their backup QB today.


I’m not ruling out anyone with 15 games left , certainly not Burrow to Chase , maybe one of the deadliest combinations in the league .If Seattle was lucky winning with Denver Pittsburgh had sheer providence . If I’m Cincy I’m not terrified of Jacoby Brissett or a very inconsistent Ravens team either . But curse is real. If fossil Flacco knocks off Joe Cool it’s time to revisit the teams expectations . They “ rebuilt “ a line that gave up 75 sacks , changed 4 guys and it’s as bad as ever .” It’s hard to win in this league “ a holmy quote .
It’s what pisses me off we were a yard away from 2 and had the LOB for 5 seasons . People don’t realize how special it is .

[Hawktawk]

After the early games wtf. Just saw the only other team shut out on offense beat KC. Nobody is out of this

[Aseahawkfan]

Any given Sunday. Chiefs and Bills lost. Chiefs lost to the Colts. Pretty crazy.

[trents]

Not surprised that the fish beat the Bills. Miami is actually a very good team. They have been quietly improving over the last two or three years and have been very good on defense the last couple of years and now their offense is starting to jell. Miami is a well-managed organization. On top of that, Buffalo entered this game with a ton of injuries to their starters from last week's game, especially on defense.

[obiken]

Yup Very few undefeated teams left.

[Aseahawkfan]

Now we will see who makes better halftime adjustments. Seahawks have a slight lead.

[obiken]

Now we will see who makes better halftime adjustments. Seahawks have a slight lead.

Both these defenses are warmed over garbage ASHF.

[Aseahawkfan]

Both these defenses are warmed over garbage ASHF.

We don't have the talent along the lines on defense to get pressure.

Now let's see if Geno can pull us from behind against a weak team.

[Aseahawkfan]

Metcalf should have caught that. Lockett bailed us out.

[Aseahawkfan]

We really need to draft some defensive line guys. We just don't have much of a front seven, especially the pass rush or D-line. We are getting very little pressure or push at the line.

[RiverDog]

Man, this defense sucks! With less than 2 minutes to go in the game and needing a stop or else it's kneel down time, we can't stop the Falcons on two running plays even when everybody and their dog knows that they're going to run the ball.

The offense looked great in the first half, but once again, they fizzled in the 2nd. Nor did the defense do anything to pick up the slack as the Falcons never punted in the 2nd half. The only reason we were even in it at the end was due to an unforced turnover. Eerily similar to the Broncos game, except that this time, we didn't get lucky.

This wasn't like getting beat on the road by the Niners, who have one of the strongest defenses in the league. By all accounts, the Falcons are in the bottom 1/3 of the league. If we can't beat them on our home field, I don't know how in the heck we're going to compete with teams like Rams and Cards.

[trents]

One positive is that Seattle won the TOP for the first time this year. Not by much but Hawks' offense was on the field a little more than was the Falcons' offense. Of course, some of that was the big plays we gave up to their offense.

[Old but Slow]

Not to state the obvious, but this is a team in transition. Our defense includes much playing time for 3 rookie defensive backs, including an undrafted free agent (Jackson), a rookie LB/DE in Mafe, and other young players like Brooks and Taylor. Yes, we need at least one more interior DL, and a wet dishrag to replace Barton. This group will learn and grow together, and when needed (2023, 2024) they may become the power we need.

I am more concerned about the interior offensive line and the outside contain on defense. In trying to add pass rush, we have given up run contain around the outside, and while I like Mafe and Nwosu and Brooks, they need to be complemented by a bruiser. I might even suggest that we are missing Jamal Adams. Where is Kam Chancellor when we need him?

Losing to Atlanta is important only as a growth experience (a potential new phrase for Pete). They tried to win, no tank talk, but they made a small step toward a draft pick. In fact, I even find myself rooting for SF to beat Denver. We aren't likely to win the division, but Denver gives us a pick.

[Aseahawkfan]

Denver getting worked. Russ's receivers don't have good hands. His O-line getting beat down.

If not for the Denver defense, Denver would be getting crushed. Denver defense is actually good.

[Agent 86]

Not to state the obvious, but this is a team in transition. Our defense includes much playing time for 3 rookie defensive backs, including an undrafted free agent (Jackson), a rookie LB/DE in Mafe, and other young players like Brooks and Taylor. Yes, we need at least one more interior DL, and a wet dishrag to replace Barton. This group will learn and grow together, and when needed (2023, 2024) they may become the power we need.

I am more concerned about the interior offensive line and the outside contain on defense. In trying to add pass rush, we have given up run contain around the outside, and while I like Mafe and Nwosu and Brooks, they need to be complemented by a bruiser. I might even suggest that we are missing Jamal Adams. Where is Kam Chancellor when we need him?

Losing to Atlanta is important only as a growth experience (a potential new phrase for Pete). They tried to win, no tank talk, but they made a small step toward a draft pick. In fact, I even find myself rooting for SF to beat Denver. We aren't likely to win the division, but Denver gives us a pick.

That was my mindset heading into the season and nothing in 3 weeks has made me change that thinking. Geno is proving to be exactly what I thought he would be at this point. Some good moments, some bad moments, and ultimately not someone that will "lead" a team to victory. His play is definitely not the reason for the losses. The offense has been really stale at points of each game which is no surprise. The D has struggled as well but again, no surprise.

So far I think this team is exactly what most people thought they would be.

[Aseahawkfan]

Denver pulled it out. Damn. Denver defense really is good. If that sad ass Denver offense can ever figure it out, they could win it all sadly.

[trents]

Denver pulled it out. Damn. Denver defense really is good. If that sad ass Denver offense can ever figure it out, they could win it all sadly.

I get the feeling they have had Russ throttled under a governor, trying to make him conform to a certain style of offense Thackett or the coaching staff want to run. When he began to improvise the offense started to move. You take that away from Russ and he's nothing special.

But that was a very strange game. It was like both teams were trying to give the game to the other team who would didn't want it.

Lots of close, low scoring games today. Does that reflect the coveted parity the NFL has worked at achieving for years? Or is it widespread mediocrity?

[obiken]

Yeah thats going to all change, Denver will get it figured out.

[Old but Slow]

Maybe I am missing something, but at a time when we need interior pass pressure from out D line, why are we seeing nothing of Adams, who was effective in that role in the preseason? Put him at DE instead of Taylor, maybe, at least some of the time. I believe he was active, but I saw nothing of him Sunday.

[RiverDog]

We now know why Shanahan hitched his wagon to Trey Lance and dumped Jimmy G. What an ugly game, reflected by its unusual final score.

[Hawktawk]

Maybe the Denver defense is really good and Geno did really good scoring 17. Its the most they have surrendered by far? No couldn't concede that could we?

[Hawktawk]

That game pisses me off more than Seattle. 3 hours of wasted time watching garbage play and watch the midget escape with 11 points. That team is going nowhere with that QB .

[c_hawkbob]

Good game or bad, Russ still owns the Niners, it is what it is.

[NorthHawk]

I think this showed Hackett what he has in Wilson and if he's smart will adjust the Offense to take advantage of Wilson's abilities more than the first 2 games + 3 quarters.

[Hawktawk]

Russell had 8 3 and outs . A record in his career. Made some terrible throws . Receivers have hands of stone but he was throwing missiles on short stuff that were hot and not perfect and he don’t have Lockett anymore so they were bouncing off . But with that defense they do have a shot no matter whose starting . It didn’t hurt they let a blatant offsides by denver go on a critical defensive play in the final series . Looks like the league is gonna prop up Denver . They held the entire second half vs Seattle . When Aikman mentions it it is bad .
Whatever . Pissd about week 3 100%

[trents]

I think this showed Hackett what he has in Wilson and if he's smart will adjust the Offense to take advantage of Wilson's abilities more than the first 2 games + 3 quarters.

This. And yes, that the Denver receivers have "hands of stone" sure seemed to be true yesterday. They dropped a number of catchable passes.

[RiverDog]

I think this showed Hackett what he has in Wilson and if he's smart will adjust the Offense to take advantage of Wilson's abilities more than the first 2 games + 3 quarters.

This. And yes, that the Denver receivers have "hands of stone" sure seemed to be true yesterday. They dropped a number of catchable passes.

Make that 3 of us. There were a lot of QB's yesterday that were victims of dropped passes.

[Aseahawkfan]

It's hard to tell with Denver versus Frisco. Frisco held us to no points on offense. They held Denver to a TD and a FG on offense. Russ is definitely not on the same page with his receivers like he is here. It seems like Hackett and Russ were trying real hard to focus on passing and not have Russ use his legs. But the reality is Russ's legs and mobility are a weapon that must be used regardless of the base type of offense you are running. His receivers need to catch those balls that hit their hands. I'd be real surprised if by game six or eight Russ and his receivers haven't worked out their timing kinks. I'm fairly certain Russ and his receivers are working extra hard to get that improved and it will show up on the field at some point.

And that sucks for our draft pick. I'd rather see Denver lose these close games before their offense gets going as Russ almost always became better later in the season. But that Denver defense is tough. They do not give up many scores. I hope they lose to the Raiders on this short week, but who knows, the Raiders are not looking great. Now the Chargers appear to be hurt and it is impacting the team. The Chargers getting blown out by the Jaguars may open them up to getting beat by Denver unless Jacksonville is a hell of a lot better than we think they are. Denver may end up second in that division if the Raiders keep losing and the Chargers are hobbled.

And second in that division is almost assuredly a playoff spot and us getting a pick in the 20s at a minimum.

[RiverDog]

It's hard to tell with Denver versus Frisco. Frisco held us to no points on offense. They held Denver to a TD and a FG on offense. Russ is definitely not on the same page with his receivers like he is here. It seems like Hackett and Russ were trying real hard to focus on passing and not have Russ use his legs. But the reality is Russ's legs and mobility are a weapon that must be used regardless of the base type of offense you are running. His receivers need to catch those balls that hit their hands. I'd be real surprised if by game six or eight Russ and his receivers haven't worked out their timing kinks. I'm fairly certain Russ and his receivers are working extra hard to get that improved and it will show up on the field at some point.

And that sucks for our draft pick. I'd rather see Denver lose these close games before their offense gets going as Russ almost always became better later in the season. But that Denver defense is tough. They do not give up many scores. I hope they lose to the Raiders on this short week, but who knows, the Raiders are not looking great. Now the Chargers appear to be hurt and it is impacting the team. The Chargers getting blown out by the Jaguars may open them up to getting beat by Denver unless Jacksonville is a hell of a lot better than we think they are. Denver may end up second in that division if the Raiders keep losing and the Chargers are hobbled.

And second in that division is almost assuredly a playoff spot and us getting a pick in the 20s at a minimum.

Yeah, different teams match up differently, so one can get in trouble by trying to argue that since A is better than B and B is better than C that A must be better than C. It doesn't work that way.

It's still early and we've already had a ton of upsets. After three weeks, there's just 3 undefeated teams, one of which plays tonight. I've always said that it takes at least 4 weeks for the good teams to show themselves, but this year, it could take longer than that. I never dreamed that Jacksonville would not only beat the Chargers, that they'd rout them by 4 TD's. So who knows.

[Hawktawk]

How bad was Urban Meyer ? Now we know although there’s a little more shine on Genos 80% game 138 rating . Coaching makes a difference . I bet the raiders wish they had got Peterson . I’m wishing we had right now .

[RiverDog]

How bad was Urban Meyer ? Now we know although there’s a little more shine on Genos 80% game 138 rating . Coaching makes a difference . I bet the raiders wish they had got Peterson . I’m wishing we had right now .

For the life of me, I don't know what the heck you're talking about. Are you talking about the Jag's win over the Chargers? Geno Smith? Adrian Peterson? Where do the Raiders figure into the above equation?

Back to the thread topic. Tonight will be an interesting game. If the Giants win tonight, they will move to 3-0, one of only three teams that haven't had a loss this season. After the injury to Dak Prescott, the Cowboys are starting their backup quarterback, Cooper Rush, and apparently, he's been playing fairly well and has caused Jerry Jones to mull the possibility of letting him compete with Dak for the starting job. The Cowboys are my most disliked team by far, and it's always refreshing to see them lose on national TV.

Plus we have a really nice, Indian summer evening tonight, and I'll be able to watch the game from my deck and the warmth of an outdoor fireplace while sipping on a glass of Chardonnay. Life is good!

[Hawktawk]

I was adressing how much better Jacksonville looks with Doug Pederson as HC. In the same Jacksonville thought I reminded that Geno had played a perfect Pete ball game against these same players for the most part . As for the raiders they summoned McDaniel for a closed door meeting after starting 0-3. Is he already on the hot seat ? Sean Payton ?

I’m sitting on my deck on #11 at the Moses lake CC I managed for 9+years before being canned for doing my job better s d harder then anyone with no directions from owners whatsoever . I was gonna sell and move and I said wtf I did nothing wrong I’m staying . Best move I ever made . Sunsets are incredible . Still have members rolling up to have a drink and a hug . We own a luxury RV site on my course at legacy too. Great views , right on the course . I never made much money doing it but we have some nice properties . Sounds like you do too river .

[RiverDog]

I was adressing how much better Jacksonville looks with Doug Pederson as HC. In the same Jacksonville thought I reminded that Geno had played a perfect Pete ball game against these same players for the most part . As for the raiders they summoned McDaniel for a closed door meeting after starting 0-3. Is he already on the hot seat ? Sean Payton ?

Ahh, silly me. Thanks for the clarification. Pederson makes a little more sense than Peterson. And do you ever stop hyping Geno? No one cares what he did vs. Jacksonville last season. I doubt if the Raiders are in panic mode this early. There's lots of reasons why they might call the HC in for a closed door meeting.

I’m sitting on my deck on #11 at the Moses lake CC I managed for 9+years before being canned for doing my job better s d harder then anyone with no directions from owners whatsoever . I was gonna sell and move and I said wtf I did nothing wrong I’m staying . Best move I ever made . Sunsets are incredible . Still have members rolling up to have a drink and a hug . We own a luxury RV site on my course at legacy too. Great views , right on the course . I never made much money doing it but we have some nice properties . Sounds like you do too river .

Sounds like a nice setup! Yes, we have what we think is a nice location, too.

[Hawktawk]

You know how the national sports media is but the word is Mark Davis is furious and made it clear in said meeting . It is early . I pump Geno because nobody else will I guess Pete did yesterday . But if we don’t win it’s all whistling in the graveyard .

[RiverDog]

You know how the national sports media is but the word is Mark Davis is furious and made it clear in said meeting . It is early . I pump Geno because nobody else will I guess Pete did yesterday . But if we don’t win it’s all whistling in the graveyard .

In all sincerity, if you would cease with your continually 'pumping' of Geno, then perhaps these threads won't all turn into debates about the quarterback and his advocate cheerleader.

There were a lot of people upset that Davis didn't hire his interim coach, so that's likely factoring into his frustration with the Raider's slow start. The hope was that McDaniel was going to elevate the play of his QB, but so far, that hasn't happened. It's a situation worth keeping an eye on.

[Hawktawk]

I was gonna say you had a special teams coach who took a team in complete turmoil to the postseason and a Derick Carr endzone pick from beating Cincy . I really thought he did a damn good job . If I were an owner I’d be wary of the Belichick coaching tree at this point .